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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:58 PM
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I don't think there be any debates. Why, because we think they will be the final nail for McCain. We
want it so bad, we are beginning to believe Lucy will not pull the ball this time. We are giving them the reason to back out, to send us into confusion.

Think about it, what's in it for them? Why take a chance on another Spain like screwup?

They have been canceling events like crazy for two weeks now, you think they will worry about backing out of debates.

You cannot shame the shameless.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:01 PM
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1. wanna bet on that one?
I can't imagine any likely scenario where there are no debates.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:07 PM
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2. Why not, we want them, they don't. n/t
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:10 PM
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5. I would be delighted to bypass them.
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 11:11 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
Obama has the advantage in this election; money, message and national mood.

The obvious winner of debates is not always the "winner."

So there is more risk for Obama in the debates than for McCain.

(I expect Obama to gain from the debates, but this isn't about my hunches.)
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:16 PM
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9. Respectfully disagree
I think there's more risk for McCain. The only appearances that he and the bimbo make are in controlled interviews or in favorable crowds with written speechs.

And I really think he's far gone mentally and physically. The American people deserve to see what kind of mental capacity their candidates have. He hides himself like he hides Palin.

I believe McCain would be a disaster in a debate.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:26 PM
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12. Missing the point.
The question isn't who would do better.

The front-runner would always prefer to have no debates if possible.

Obama would win without any debates so all scenarios where McCain wins, however unlikely those scenarios may be, involve McCain gaining from the debates.

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:08 PM
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3. That or he'll find a way to get Palin on stage with him.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:09 PM
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4. Like Bush/Cheney before the 911 commission, same model. n/t
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:11 PM
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6. It would be a disaster for McCain and the bimbo to debate
McCain has always been a snake and good at lying. But he is so feeble now that there is no way he can think quick enough to make his lies sound convinceable.

He definitely is not as intelligent as Obama so he's at a big disadvantage there.

Then there's the temper issue. He has a very hard time controlling himself there, and even moreso now that he's old, as displayed on The View.

Obama has trained trained himself to have great self-discipline, and will not allow emotions to cloud his responses.

And really, what's there to say about a Palin debate except - PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!

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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:15 PM
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7. I actually wouldn't be that surprised.
But I don't know that it would be a winning move for McCain. It could read like cowardice.
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briv1016 Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:15 PM
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8. I think you're confusing insanity and stupidity.
The Rethugs know it would be political suicide to back out of the debates.
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Chorophyll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:19 PM
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10. The debates are rehearsed to some extent.
It's not as if the candidates are going to be hit with any questions out of left field. It would be suicide for anyone to back out.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:23 PM
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11. But that is they create a media buzz for 5 or 6 days, wasting our time. n/t
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:38 PM
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13. well, of course you don't think he'll debate. You don't think he's going to be on the ballot
right? Or have you finally given that one up?
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:48 PM
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15. No, I still he will be pulled. We may end up facing a Palin/Cheney ticket. n/t
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:39 PM
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14. The MSM might try to spin it as a McCain victory as long as he doesn't trip over his shoelaces.
That's the problem. Kerry kicked shrub's butt in the 2004 debates but you would never know it from listening to what the cable news talking heads said about it.
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