So... About the "He's Dropping her" Rumors

[quakerboy]

Lets look at this logically. What would the practical result be?

How would that effect registering to be on the ballot?

How would that effect the supposed "enthusiasm" she has raised in the base?

How would that effect the votes of the supposed surge of Uterine Voters?

Practically, what are the effects? When we weave these concepts, that might be a good starting place. Those still stuck on the "Biden should drop so Obama can Sub in Hillary" train should start with some similar questions.

[CK_John]

1. I think she will out him with having a mental problem if he tries. n/t

[jberryhill]

4. You know...

If they are elected, and she can convince a majority of the cabinet that he is mentally ill, she can become acting president until he certifies that he is not mentally ill.

[Tunkamerica]

6. wasn't that an episode of "24"?

[cjsmom44]

18. RE: Yes she would

I think she would definitely out him...she would pay him back with venom...I was thinking that very thought yesterday...I wonder what is going through her mind, as she watches the old man fumble through his speeches ...gaffe after gaffe....I thought that she probably is thinking....oh good now I can have more clout to push through my own social agendas....this old man is clueless....etc...very scary isn't it folks?

[krkaufman]

26. Chuckle! That's what I've been thinking, that it's more likely that Palin would dump McCain. nt

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. I really don't think he will do this...

It would be an admission of a huge mistake...

It would reflect poorly on his judgment!

:P

[midnight armadillo]

29. She is the choice of the religious right

Surely some day we will learn how McCain caved to pressure from Dobson et al to choose Palin. Like he always does when he starts talking 'bout being "maverick" and choosing someone like Lieberman.

[lapfog_1]

3. I thought the wise old heads

and the punditry class - like George Will - would make him drop her before her acceptance speech at the convention. If all of the scandals now out about her (and had she been interviewed by the press even one time), I feel certain that she would have been dropped. She does energize the masses, the fundie base that actually has a lot more members than the upper class overlord types. They are still behind her. But it will cost McCain the election. And its now too late to do anything about it. He is stuck with her now.

[Cosmocat]

24. That WAS my take ... But, NEVER underestimate ...

I thought once she got past the convention he couldn't drop her, but I am getting a little different vibe.

First, while this jerkoff doesn't want to be "told" what to do, he wants to win about the same. I think IF he keeps falling behind in the polls, and she is the drag that she looks like she is going to be, I would not put it past him to bring in Romney/Huck to give it a last second push.

I also thought dropping her would be untenable, but I think they have played the victim card enough now, that they have that out - the evil liberals and big bad media have been SO mean to this poor woman and her family, that she has to go back to Alaska and take care of her family.

I think they are BOLD enough to play it like that AND if he brings in a big name like Romney/Huck, that the media will let him play it like that. WE would know it was a pathetic move, but WE knew that Palin was a pathetic pick the moment it was official, and it took them two weeks of making her the second coming of Margaret Thatcher before they STARTED to deal with the depths of how bad of a pick she was.

I am not saying it WILL happen, I think odds are he goes off the cliff with her, but I also very much CAN see him dropping her and playing the victim - look at his campaign to this point, he has had a half dozen staff shakeups, he has run the most retarded ads in presidential politics history, he PICKED Palin ... This guy has made dozens of erratic and "gambling" moves to this point (backing the surge was the ultimate all in move), I don't see that any of his other pathologies will keep him from rolling the dice on a long shot one more time.

[The Shadow]

5. Exactly What They Are... Rumors

McSame and company has sold her to their base and that is the long and short if it. It's much akin to un-ringing of a bell, can't be done. Likewise, with Biden (excellent choice in my opinion), this is our ticket and to stray from it would only be self destructive. McSame's problem is that he didn't choose wisely and now it appears that she is more of a liability than an asset, but again he is unequivocally stuck with his choice.

[spag68]

14. Rumors

The biggest rumor in the office pool, is how long before the first dude is bonking the other beauty contestant on the stage.

[MrModerate]

7. McCain is unsuited for the presidency . . .

But I can't get my brain around the notion of him being that stupid.

He has a lousy chance with Palin; he has no chance if he drops her.

If he booted her for someone with real experience/knowhow (Mittens, Huckleberry Hound), it would just highlight how bad his judgement -- with his eons of experience -- has turned out to be. If he picks someone with a high freak-show component (I don't know, Rush Limbaugh?), that'll just highlight Palin's freak-show aspects. If he picks someone who's actually qualified to be Veep/Pres (I'm scratching my head for a name, here), that'll just throw into high relief how hypocritical and contemptuous the Palin choice was.

And he'd look like a wuss, a dodderer, and cowardly.

Nope, he's stapled the decomposing carcass of a moose to his chest and he'll carry it all the way down to November 4.

After which they'll never be seen in the same room again.

[quakerboy]

10. Thats pretty close to my take

First, the admission of error is beyond him, I think. It would bring his judgment further into question.

The base would likely not take it well.

It seems to me that it would highlight in EXTREME his sexist nature and the cynical nature of his vp choice. I cannot think that many women would take well to that, even among those who have bought the initial ploy.

I know Alaska is small, But there are 3 electoral votes, and at this point he needs every last one he can scrape up. The people who dislike Sarah are on the issues and the personality, and aren't going to be going for McCain anyway. One would think that those who do like her would also be offended. And don't forget there is a senatorial race there as well.


He is well and stuck. Unless someone sees something I am missing.

[Orsino]

31. I think that replacing her would increase his chances...

...but I don't believe that it will happen.

[FightingIrish]

8. Google "dropping palin"

The odds against have dropped from 20 to 1 to 6 to 1. Some of the hits are on line pleas for McCain to drop her.

[quakerboy]

11. Intrade shows opposite

Sarah Palin to be withdrawn as Republican VP nominee/candidate before 2008 presidential election

Sept 3rd, price aprox 19
Sept 13, price aprox 6
Today, Price aprox 6

Biden to be withdrawn is still priced higher, though a smaller volume.

[TlalocW]

9. The more you read about Sarah Palin

About her past from people who knew her about how she would do anything to get ahead, McCain better watch his back if he does try to drop her. In fact, I'm halfway convinced that the whole reason she joined the campaign was because she's convinced (and maybe got convinced by some of the more religiously insane higher-ups in the party) that McCain would probably keel over pretty early on, or she could oust him over dementia or something to leapfrog to the presidency.

TlalocW

[grasswire]

13. think a little bit harder

The religious cult she belongs to (dominionists) believe it is their destiny to rule the earth after the Apocalypse. Do you think those people would let McCain stand in the way of her destiny? No.

[tblue]

15. Precisely. He'll drop her when hell freezes over.

[mwb970]

19. Stand in the way? These "Christians" want McCain to DIE.

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/9/3/11483/34706

[krkaufman]

27. No question. She views this as God's Plan ...

... and she knows God will call McCain to him before his first term ends.

[Eurobabe]

12. He ain't dropping her, he's gonna ride the rail off the cliff.

Everything is set in motion. They'll crash and burn together. My prediction.

[TheKentuckian]

16. Drop her? No way, she's more likely to dump him.

She's the draw, she's got the base, she brings in the money.

She's certainly not electable, its too close to the election but its near the point that anyone that is conscious has to be near 100% ditch on McShame too, if they could even hang back before.

[terrya]

17. I think they're just rumors.

If he dropped her, it WOULD be over for him. Any kind of enthusiasm that the fundamentalists have for McCain would instantly evaporate. They would be PISSED if he were to drop her.

She'll continue to be an albatross on his campaign as her unfavorable ratings climb higher and higher. But she's on the ticket to stay. Jettisoning her would make it much worse for him.

[salguine]

20. Are you serious!? If anyone dumps anybody, she'll dump him!

[H2O Man]

21. It's too late.

If he had any second thoughts, he would have had to drop her within a week of selecting her. That would have sunk any chance he had for being elected. But there is no chance of him being able to drop her now.

[lamp_shade]

22. Troopergate is her painless out - "I don't want to be a burden on the campaign"

I hope she takes it.

[onenote]

23. as I said elsewhere: no one is getting dropped

short of them being hit by a truck.

[Samantha]

25. If he really thinks of her as a threat, the safer choice would be to

continue to use her to try to win the election, and, if successful force her resignation when she is the Vice President. Think Agnew.

I am not sure how objective McCain can be at this point about Palin, but he does know how to use women to his advantage, and he also has Cindy on hand to keep his vision about her clear.

I think she will exist Stage Right, but after November. Just my gut talking.

Sam

[WinkyDink]

28. There is NO. WAY. ZEEE. ro.

[Orsino]

30. It would be unprecedented, but so are a lot of other frauds perpetrated by the GOP.

I won't completely rule out the idea, but if it happened, it would be spun as Palin needing to withdraw "for the good of Alaska/her family." I think it's more likely that McCain himself would drop out, he having disgraced himself again and again with gaffes even Palin wouldn't make, and being possessed of built-in health problems for an easy out whenever he wants.

But no, I'm confident that it will be McCain/Palin going down in flames in November.

[WinkyDink]

33. Well, there would go any wavering women's vote, in a trice.

[Orsino]

34. I believe they've severely overestimated Palin's appeal to women...

...if that ever was a serious consideration in choosing her. It wasn't going to make significant inroads into the female vote, IMO.

She's a pretty face on an ugly agenda, first and foremost. Second, she's a patsy well-practiced in back-stabbery and blackmail, who will do as her new handlers tell her (despite her shows of independence in Alaska). Third, she's a sop to the religious right. Fourth, she still has some sex appeal to draw male voters. Fifth, she cements the ticket's racist appeal.

Concern for women was probably last on the list of priorities when Palin was chosen.

[sampsonblk]

32. He is a drag on their ticket, not her-nt

[BlooInBloo]

35. Practical result? I'll make a killing on Intrade.

[demokatgurrl]

36. Don't buy it. No matter how bad she is

to drop a VP running mate after the campaign has started would be disastrous. It would KILL the enthusiasm. The ONLY way I can see her getting off the ticket is if she suddenly "becomes ill" or has a "family crisis" (the latter not unlikely given that family).

[berni_mccoy]

37. Where are these rumors coming from? This is the only post I've seen about it.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

38. Just wishful thinking from the blogosphere, I'm afraid

It would be wonderful if McCain did drop Palin, and would make Obama nearly a shoe-in, but (for precisely that reason) you might as well hope that McCain himself will have a change of heart, endorse Obama and drop out.

Palin is here to stay, and we are going to have to win in spite of her.