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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:20 AM
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RNC mails Florida senior citizens, Dems, :"We have you registered as a Republican"...
Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 08:21 AM by npincus
The bastards are at it in Florida... trying to confuse and supress the senior (Dem) vote. BASTARDS.


http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/state/article814237.ece#email

TALLAHASSEE — A new pitch for John McCain's presidential campaign aimed at older Democratic voters is causing complaints by Democrats and concern by elections officials.

The piece, paid for by the Republican National Committee and authorized by McCain, tells voters it is seeking to double-check their "unconfirmed" party affiliations while asking for money. A letter signed by McCain tells the Democrats: "We have you registered as a Republican."

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Two top Florida elections officials, both Republicans, faulted the GOP mailing, calling it "confusing" and "unfortunate" because of a potential to undermine voter confidence by making them question the accuracy of their registrations.

"It is unfortunate, because it does put a lot of doubt in people's minds," said Secretary of State Kurt Browning, the state's top elections official.

After his office received dozens of calls, Duval County Supervisor of Elections Jerry Holland issued a media alert that his office had nothing to do with it. "They were upset folks and they were very concerned," said Holland, a Republican. "They mainly said their party (listing) was different than it was."

Some Democrats suspect a motive beyond raising money. The first-class GOP mailing has a "Do not forward" instruction on the envelope, meaning they will be returned to the GOP if a recipient has had mail forwarded, perhaps to a summer address, or has moved.

Letters returned as undeliverable can be compiled into "challenge lists" of unverifiable addresses and can be used to challenge voters' eligibility during early voting or on Election Day. The vote suppression technique is known as "vote caging."

"That postcard is a little disconcerting," said letter-recipient Steve Hemping of Naples, chairman of the Collier County Democratic Party and a state party official. "You don't know if they're going to use it to challenge somebody's right to vote."

The letter asks recipients to note changes on an "RNC File Card" and return it to the party by Sept. 26. The card shows a nine-digit "voter ID" number, but the supervisor of elections in Jacksonville's Duval County said the numbers are wrong and do not match the state's voter database.


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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:27 AM
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1. We need some "muscle" w/ baseball bats
to help fix up the offices of the people doing this shit ....

these people know they are cheating and yet go right ahead
and do it.
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:31 AM
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2. Why and How do the Democrats let them get away with this EVERY election?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:36 AM
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4. How do they stop it?
With a complicit Secretary of State and Attorney General in Florida, how do you go about stopping something like this?
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:08 AM
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6. Ads
It mystified me in 2004 and continues to again that the Democrats are not making ads in the form of public service announcement to inform people of their voting rights and warn them of fraudulent vote suppression.

Imagine an ad for each state, noting what each citizen needs to vote and preparing them against disenfranchisement techniques. "I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message." Dynamite. All but impossible to criticize, and repairing the vote count would be a huge benefit to Democratic numbers.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:14 AM
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8. That's a great idea..
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:16 AM
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10. Yes why aren't there ads Florida!????? Why not?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:46 AM
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14. Well, we DO have 2 men with access to NATIONAL MEDIA......
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:09 PM
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22. Jail sentences or baseball bats
whichever comes first
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medicswife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:34 AM
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3. Dirty bastards! God I wish I was free to travel to some of these
swing states and work for the campaign. McCain has more than sided with the dark-side.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:38 AM
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5. Florida is a lost cause, way too corrupt to ever vote Democratic
Thats okay, we have other states in play.
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AllexxisF1 Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:18 AM
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11. Maybe.
But you can bet your ass that I will be out in blue screaming "Fired up!" "Ready to go!" to every single person at the polls here on the Treasure Coast.

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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:21 AM
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12. Maybe not. For the first time in over 20 years this county has a majority of registered Dems.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:49 AM
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15. I hope that we find a way there but I still have scars from 2000.:(
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Birthday Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:12 AM
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7. This is sick. n/t
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:15 AM
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9. Repubslimin's
Always cheat. They can't win on the issues, but lying isn't enough. They also have to cheat. They have no honor or integrity.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:27 AM
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13. Go directly to Greg Palast's page below, and send him the info, if you have received one of these.
Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 09:33 AM by seafan
As discussed in this thread by berni_mccoy


Greg Palast and RFK, Jr. are leading a wide-ranging investigation on these caging attempts (flyers, letters sent to trick voters). Go to Greg's site and leave him a message at the bottom of the page at this link:

http://www.gregpalast.com/robert-kennedy-greg-palast-the-final-investigation/


He wants to hear from you if you have received these deceptive mailings from GOP operatives.



Like this one:

Democrats, Florida elections officials criticize GOP mailing, St. Pete Times, September 16, 2008

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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:14 AM
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18. good idea.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:45 AM
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16. Stealing it - the only way they have a chance in hell of winning. Jerks. nt
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:49 AM
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17. They're no better than the scummiest politicians/parties in the scummiest countries
- they just THINK they are. Bastards!!! I hope people are just as wary of their shit as they are of con men, phone scammers, spam, etc.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 12:50 PM
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19. How about an injunction to cease and desist? nt
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 12:56 PM
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20. After Obama gets sworn in, he needs to set up a department of election fraud.
and lock them up.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:07 PM
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21. They deceive at will, and there is no recourse.
Various Court rulings have undermined the civil tort of fraud. It used to be the case in this country that you could hold someone liable if they lied to you, you relied on their lie, and were damaged by their lie. Now, it's nearly impossible to win a fraud case. People are, with few exceptions, free to lie at will, and if you are injured by their lie, then that's too bad for you. You have no recourse.

The Republics know this, and that's why they're willing to do it. Anything to win, of course.

:puke:

-Laelth
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:09 PM
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23. What you need is a stooge in the post office. When they see this shit coming off the trucks
he/she can make a quiet alert call.

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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:00 PM
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24. Of course! They're cheating! For Jesus! And America!

Whose votes would Jesus cage, I wonder?
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