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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 01:16 PM
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McCain Caught in Another HUGE LIE About Obama: Bush Officials Defend Obama on Iraq Meeting
Remember that slimy NY Post story that claimed Obama tried to get the Iraqi government to delay sending home American troops until after the election?

Obama's side called this story an outrageous lie. Chuck Hagel called it an outrageous lie. And guess who else agrees with Obama & Hagel? The Bush officials who attended that same meeting with Obama.

Here's the story:

Undermining McCain Campaign Attack, Republicans Back Obama‘s Version of Meeting with Iraqi Leaders

September 19, 2008 1:06 PM

Earlier this week, the campaign of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., seized upon a column in the New York Post that described Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., as having urged Iraqi leaders in a private meeting to delay coming to an agreement with the Bush administration on the status of U.S. troops.

"Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence," Post columnist Amir Tehari wrote, quoting Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari who told the Post that Obama during his meeting with Iraqi leaders in July "asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington."

The charge -- that Obama asked the Iraqis to delay signing off on a "Status of Forces Agreement," thus delaying US troop withdrawal and interfering in U.S. foreign policy -- has been picked up on the internet, talk radio and by Republicans including the McCain campaign, which seized on the story as possible evidence of duplicity.

The Obama campaign said that the Post report consisted of "outright distortions."

Lending significant credence to Obama's response is the fact that -- though it's absent from the Post story and other retellings -- in addition to Obama and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, this July meeting was also attended by Bush administration officials such as U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker and the Baghdad embassy's Legislative Affairs advisor Rich Haughton, as well as a Republican senator, Chuck Hagel of Nebraska.

Attendees of the meeting back Obama's account, including not just Sen. Jack Reed, D-RI, but Hagel, Senate Foreign Relations Committee staffers from both parties. Officials of the Bush administration who were briefed on the meeting by the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad also support Obama's account and dispute the Post story and McCain attack.

The Post story is "absolutely not true," Hagel spokesman Mike Buttry told ABC News.

"Barack Obama has never urged a delay in negotiations," said Obama campaign national security spokesperson Wendy Morigi, "nor has he urged a delay in immediately beginning a responsible drawdown of our combat brigades."

Buttry said that Hagel agrees with Obama's account of the meeting: Obama began the meeting with Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki by asserting that the United States speaks with one foreign policy voice, and that voice belongs to the Bush administration.

A Bush administration official with knowledge of the meeting says that during the meeting Obama stressed to Maliki that he would not interfere with President Bush's negotiations concerning the US troop presence in Iraq, and that he supports the Bush administration's position on the need to negotiate as soon as possible the Status of Forces Agreement, which deals with among other matters US troops having immunity from local prosecution.

Obama did assert at the meeting with the Iraqis that he agrees with those – including Hagel and Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., the ranking Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee -- who advocate congressional review of the Strategic Framework Agreement being worked out between the Bush administration and the Iraqi government, including the Iraqi parliament.

The Strategic Framework Agreement is a document that generally describes what the relationship between the two countries should look like over time.

According one person present at the meeting, Obama told Maliki that the American people wouldn't understand why the Iraqi Parliament would get to have a say on the Strategic Framework Agreement but the U.S. Congress would not, especially since the President Bush is only months from leaving the White House, regardless of whether Obama or McCain succeeds him.

Morigi said in a statement that "Barack Obama has consistently called for any Strategic Framework Agreement to be submitted to the U.S. Congress so that the American people have the same opportunity for review as the Iraqi Parliament."

It’s possible, Obama advisers believe, that either Zebari or columnist Taheri confused the Strategic Framework Agreement, which Obama feels should be reviewed by Congress, with the Status of Forces Agreement, which Obama says the Bush administration should negotiate with the Iraqis as soon as possible.

Two officials of the Bush administration say that if Obama had done what the Post story asserted – which they believe to be untrue – U.S. Ambassador Crocker and embassy officials attending the meeting would have ensured that the Bush administration heard about it immediately. If such an incident occurred in front of officials of the Bush administration, it would have constituted a foreign policy breach and would have been front-page huge news; it would not have leaked out two months later in an op-ed column.

Nonetheless, based on nothing more than the Post report, McCain senior foreign policy adviser Randy Scheunemann issued a statement earlier this week expressing outrage.

“It should be concerning to all that (Obama) reportedly urged that the democratically-elected Iraqi government listen to him rather than the US administration in power,” Scheunemann said, apparently not having talked to anyone with knowledge about the meeting in Bush administration, the US Embassy in Baghdad, GOP Sen. Hagel, or any Republican staffers on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

“If news reports are accurate, this is an egregious act of political interference by a presidential candidate seeking political advantage overseas,” Scheunemann continued. “Senator Obama needs to reveal what he said to Iraq's Foreign Minister during their closed door meeting. The charge that he sought to delay the withdrawal of Americans from Iraq raises serious questions about Senator Obama's judgment and it demands an explanation.”

What actually demands an explanation is why the McCain campaign was so willing to give credence to such a questionable story with such tremendous international implications without first talking to Republicans present at Obama’s meeting with Maliki, who back Obama’s version of the meeting and completely dismiss the Post column as untrue.

-- Jake Tapper and Kirit Radia



http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/undermining-mcc.html
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 01:23 PM
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1. This is insane. They are just making up lies now--lies that are disputed by OTHER REPUBLICANS,
Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 01:23 PM by wienerdoggie
including Bush administration officials. How can they get away with this?
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 01:25 PM
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4. It is outrageous. Really outrageous. Lie, lie, lie, lie, lie. It's all they do.
I'm torn about whether this should get media play or not.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 01:52 PM
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8. I don't know, but interestingly, it pits the McCain camp directly against Hagel and Crocker.
Is McCain calling them liars? Is he suggesting that his buddy Hagel would willingly participate in Obama's interfering with Bush's foreign policy? I'm glad Obama was smart enough to have Hagel along with him, as a witness against these kind of charges.
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Whalestoe Donating Member (928 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 01:25 PM
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5. They won't. President Barack Obama here we come!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 01:25 PM
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2. Fuck god damn
mccain and filthy lying gin hole.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 01:25 PM
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3. USS McCain...
Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 01:26 PM by 1corona4u
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Birthday Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 01:43 PM
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6. So what happens to the Post now?
Is there any legal action that can be taken against the press for an all-out lie? Can we do nothing to protect ourselves from being totally lied to by the press? This makes my head spin.
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Sodan Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 01:47 PM
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7. This is getting out of control - McShame!
Now I am getting confused.. Lies, lies, lies.. have to stop.
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theothersnippywshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 02:08 PM
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9. Does McCain still have the mental capacity to distinguish between the truth and a lie?
His lies are so bizarre and easily disproved and are being manufactured and distributed with such a maniacal frenzy that I wonder about the state of his mental health.
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 03:02 PM
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10. Very sad when Shrub agrees with OUR candidate against HIS candidate
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 03:03 PM
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11. Someone should send this to KO to give another 100.00 to charity!
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theothersnippywshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 06:08 PM
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12. Bush might be confused about who his candidate actually is.
He might still believe in the filth he threw at McCain in 2000. I think that filth definitely has caused some of McCain's current mental problems.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 06:53 PM
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13. "McCain would rather lose his integrity, than lose an election." n/t
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