Would someone please come up with a rejoinder for this one. I am so sick of the crazies.

[geiger]

QUIZ:

My own mother thinks she should send me this crap.

QUIZ:

Who am I?

I am under 45 years of age

I love the outdoors,

I hunt,

I am a Republican reformer

I have taken on the Republican Party establishment,

I have many children,

I have a spot on the national ticket as vice president with less than two years
in the governor's office.

ANSWER:

Teddy Roosevelt

[amitten]

1. You need to list Roosevelts credentials/accomplishments at

the time.

[rockymountaindem]

3. That's pretty much it

He had a lot of experience that Sarah Palin has not. For instance, Roosevelt resigned his position as Sec. of the Navy to go fight in the Spanish-American War. Think about that. Which federal executive office did Sarah Palin resign to go lead American soldiers in battle? None.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Of course, the other main difference is that Teddy Roosevelt had brains and could think on his own without McCain and his legions of speechwriters to cover for his vacuousness.

[geiger]

6. the problem is, these people aren't interested in facts; only fantasy.

[redwitch]

21. Like he graduated from Harvard magna cum laude.

And was Assistant Sec. of the Navy.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

49. and NYC police commissioner

not to mention published author, naturalist, soldier and all around brilliant man.

[No Elephants]

57. Sorry. Wrong spot.

[JackintheGreen]

2. It's not a response

but those were different times, with different needs. This is a different world than the one TR worked and lived in, but understanding that requires some sort of historical consciousness that these people don't seem to understand.

[geiger]

5. like I said; they are nuts. doesn't warrant a response, I guess.

[JackintheGreen]

The response is logic, reason, history

But that isn't likely to work.

[Virginia Dare]

4. Yeah but Teddy Roosevelt wasn't a dipshit...n/t

[geiger]

10. nor full of shit. thanks. eom.

[Eric J in MN]

7. Teddy Roosevelt protected the environment by creating national parks.

Sarah Palin wants to drill in ANWR, supports shooting wolves from planes, and opposes listing polar bears and beluga whales as endangered species.

[geiger]

14. I'll have to remind my mother of that one for sure. We just went to Yellowstone

last summer, and she went head over heel for the place.

[NoQuarter]

32. The caviar lobby will

have something to say about that.

[salguine]

60. And, perhaps strangely for someone who came from money,

he actually cared about poor people.

[kansasblue]

8. Assistant Secretary of the Navy in 1897.

[kansasblue]

9. rank of Lieutenant Colonel

[kansasblue]

11. Roosevelt was instrumental in preparing the Navy for the Spanish-American War

[kansasblue]

13. graduated Phi Beta Kappa and magna cum laude (22nd of 177) from Harvard in 1880, and entered Columbi

[kansasblue]

15. author 1882 book The Naval War of 1812 was standard history for two generations.

[kansasblue]

18. president of the board of New York City Police Commissioners in 1895.

[kansasblue]

22. Under his leadership, the Rough Riders became famous

[kansasblue]

30. thanks to wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teddy_Roosevelt#Governor_and_Vice_President

[geiger]

19. how many colleges did Sarah Palin go to? did she ever end up actually graduating?

[seabeyond]

5 colleges, took 6 yrs to grad. maybe three colleges and 6 yrs to grad.

i have heard it both ways

4 yr degree
major journalism
minor political science

[mitchum]

52. It took her 6 years to get a Communications/Journalism degree and she didn't minor...

in anything
She may have a cognate in Poli Sci (and it takes what...2-3 courses for a cognate?)

[seabeyond]

55. no fuckin way..... ANOTHER lie. oh geez. why the hell was this being given to her

i saw it all over the first three four days when we were asking if she had an education

THANK you for that correction. jeeeezus

i remember with bush in 2004 trying to catch and keep track of all the lies. the upside, palin we started at day one catching them, but this one slid by

[Muttocracy]

25. Hmmm, who do we know who went to Columbia and Harvard - time for a new quiz...

[blondeatlast]

12. "I established the National Park Service because I was dedicated to preserving the beauty

of the wilderness. That Sarah Palin nutjob wants to drill my beloved wilderness. Not to mention McKinley wasn't exactly sane, but he wasn't a a weakling with no principles, either."

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

16. Who am I?

I think dinosaurs and people lived together.

I think Jesus will come back in my life time.

I think the murder of Jews is A-OK.

I give jobs to unqualified hacks that I went to high school with.

Who am I?

I am a candidate some really stupid dipshits plan on voting for.

[seabeyond]

36. wait wait

i take 18 hours before seeking medical help on a high risk preg

hubby sits in meeting with me cause i am just a girl and de makes decisions for me

i think the raped should have to pay for their investigation

i fire employees cause they will not fire someone cause i am mad at them

i shoot wolves out of airplanes

[Mudoria]

50. Now that was damn good

[Muttocracy]

17. TR was a Harvard magna cum laude grad plus...

based on a quick look at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Roosevelt


he wrote 35 books

Before Pres, had been

Asst. Secretary of Navy (Washington insider?)

Veteran

As president, pro-labor and fought big business

set up wildlife refuges and parks, didn't plan on drilling in them


does say he had an out of control teenage daughter though

[11 Bravo]

20. He was unabashedly progressive, the antithesis of today's conservative.

He was the first President to call for universal health care. He was the first president to call for national health insurance. He was never investigated for abuse of power during his tenure as Governor. He never showed the slightest inclination to impose his religious views on others by force of law. He would have cut off a testicle before allowing the pristine ANWR to be despoiled by oil companies. His spouse never advocated for secession fom the United States. Just for starters.

[RaleighNCDUer]

44. Religious views --

It was his specific objections at the time it first came up, around WW1, that kept congress from inserting "Under God" into the pledge of allegiance, which held until 1954.

[codjh9]

23. Well, he was obviously smarter, but that'll be hard to prove to a Republican. As

others have said, he was FAR better on the environment. I bet he didn't have a pregnant daughter, nor a spouse who was involved in an anti-American party, nor hadn't been vindictive to umpteen people, hired all his h.s. buddies, etc etc etc etc etc.

[lakemonster11]

46. Actually, his daughter was pretty interesting...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Roosevelt_Longworth

[YOY]

24. Reply

Who am I?

I must fix what the Republicans have done.

I must deal with record unemployment.

I must deal with epic economic issues.

I must deal with getting this country back on it's feet.

I went to Harvard.

I am the former governor of a large state.

I know well the danger of right wing politics and what it means.

I believe it is the duty of Christians to help the less fortunate and urge citizens to enter public service

I am seen as physically unlike previous presidents.


Answer:

Franklin Delano Roosevelt

[geiger]

28. yep.

[TheKentuckian]

26. TR was indeed a character that had character

Palin is just a caricature.

[geiger]

29. good one.

[Fearless]

27. I split the national ticket because I was a cry baby

Who decided politics was too tough after my term was up, went to Africa, came back four years later and lost the next election for my party.

[geiger]

31. ?

[Fearless]

37. Here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bull_moose_party

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teddy_roosevelt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election,_1912

[Beausoleil]

33. As usual, snopes is your friend

http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/roosevelt.asp

"...this comparison belongs in the "technically true but intentionally misleading" category, simply presenting a few superficial similarities between the two figures while ignoring their substantial differences, particularly in the areas of background and experience"

[geiger]

34. ahhh.... thank you.

[Vinca]

35. Tell your mother Teddy Roosevelt was for universal healthcare.

She'll probably choke, but it's true.

[geiger]

40. she thinks that's the way the socialists and communists want to take over the country

meanwhile, four out of five of my brothers have had to take advantage of free health care because they had no coverage, zero.

[Iris]

53. I simply cannot believe how much weight those 2 words still have

[mitchum]

54. Doesn't speak much for your mom's parenting skills...

if she raised four "freeloading socialists"
But I guess that poor parenting thing is why she feels such a connection with Palin...
Tell her mitchum said that.

[tandot]

38. And that compares to that moron from Alaska how???

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1906/roosevelt-bio.html

<snip>

President Harrison, after his election in 1889, appointed Roosevelt as a member of the Civil Service Commission of which he later became president. This office he retained until 1895 when he undertook the direction of the Police Department of New York City. In 1897 he joined President McKinley's administration as assistant secretary of the Navy. While in this office he actively prepared for the Cuban War, which he saw was coming, and when it broke out in 1898, went to Cuba as lieutenant colonel of a regiment of volunteer cavalry, which he himself had raised among the hunters and cowboys of the West. He won great fame as leader of these «Rough-Riders», whose story he told in one of his most popular books.

Elected governor of the state of New York in 1898, he invested his two-year administration with the vigorous and businesslike characteristics which were his hallmark. He would have sought reelection in 1900, since much of his work was only half done, had the Republicans not chosen him as their candidate for the second office of the Union. He held the vice-presidency for less than a year, succeeding to the presidency after the assassination of President McKinley on September 14, 1901. In 1904 Roosevelt was elected to a full term as president.

<snip>

The arrogance and shamelessness of these people is unbelievable. How dare they compare that moron with Teddy Roosevelt. :mad:

[RaleighNCDUer]

39. An amazing parallel with Palin

if you ignore 80% of what TR did over that span of time.

Graduated from Harvard, attended Columbia Law school.
NY police commissioner.
Asst. Secretary of the Navy
Commanded "Rough Rider" regiment in the Spanish American war.
Published author, whose "Naval War of 1812" was considered a definitive text.

And much, much more...

[lapfog_1]

41. Send her this...

I was a leader of the Progressive Movement.

I was an historian and published author who wrote "the book" on Naval War of 1812.

As a rancher in the Dakotas, I would read Tolstoy to entertain myself.

I served as the head of the United States Civil Service Commission for 6 years where I fought for government employees and their working situations.

I reformed the New York City Police Department while I was Commissioner for 2 years.

I was Assistant Secretary of Navy for 2 years where I modernized our Naval Forces.

I left that position to enlist in the Army when war broke our and lead my troops in battle personally.

After the war I was elected Governor of New York, before running for the Presidency.

As President, my love of the wild places in our great land caused me to set aside more land for national parks and nature preserves than ALL of my predecessors combined.

Who am I?

Theodore Roosevelt.

[geiger]

45. interesting to me that in a weird sort of way the "quiz" is an admission

they know she has few "qualifications."

[immoderate]

42. QUIZ: Who am I?

I lie like a rug.

I favor shooting defenseless animals from airplanes.

I raise delinquent children.

I am in bed with the oil companies.

I am against conservation and I don't believe in global warming.

I am a Republican abuser of power.

I had to hire a city manager because I was incompetent as mayor.

I am a religious wacko who is preparing for the end times.

I am totally unprepared for national (or any) public office, but I hire my unqualified friends for cushy public jobs.

I left my constituents deep in debt.

The establishment Republicans I opposed are still around, but anyone else who disagreed with me has been tossed.

I cannot correctly pronounce words like "nuclear" and "verbiage."

HINT: I'm not qualified to shine Teddy Roosevelt's shoes.


--IMM

[geiger]

43. not qualifed to shine his shoes. right on.

[Danger Mouse]

47. Remind these idiots that Teddy Roosevelt was a PROGRESSIVE, not a conservative fuckwit.

[geiger]

63. They have no idea what progressive means, unfortunately.

[Danger Mouse]

64. Using a series of grunts, communicate the following to them...

:)
"Teddy Roosevelt stood for exactly the opposite of everything that Sarah Palin stands for."

[geiger]

65. I know, I know....

I just don't know when I can bring myself to pick up the phone again....

...to call my very own mother.

This is SAD.

[OwnedByFerrets]

48. Ask your mother if she is ready for McSame to privatize her

SS? That is his platform. This economic meltdown is bad, but at least they haven't fucked up SS yet. McSame will rape SS.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

51. TR railed constantly against "malefactors of great wealth" who threatened

the nation's well being in the pursuit of their own greed. That pretty much sez it all.

[geiger]

67. and they said it couldn't be done....

I heard Joe Biden give a speech the other night in which he declared that we are at a deciding moment in history. If we don't believe we can do what is right now, we will be lost for a generation.

I would add "at least" to that last assertion.

Teddy Roosevelt is my favorite President. Why did she have to pick on him? It's sick.

[eshfemme]

56. Does your mom realize that Teddy later regreted his affilation with the Republicans?

He tried to run for a third term with a third party that he created in order to try to destroy his own party, the Bull Moose party. I'm not fucking kidding here.

[vanderBeth]

58. Teddy must be spinning in his grave.

[D23MIURG23]

59. Who am I?

I have managed a state half as big as Pittsburgh for just under 2 years.

But most of my "executive experience" was garnered here:



I have no foreign policy experience, but ethics challenges from every government job I've held.

I think the earth is 6000 years old.

I once tried to censor books in a public library.

I chase wolf down in an aircraft and shoot them once they have passed out from exhaustion.

I would ban contraception and think that girls raped by their fathers should be required by law to carry the baby to term.

I am the first major party candidate since the civil war to be involved in a secessionist movement

Answer:
Someone unfit for public office.

[geiger]

61. It's enuf 2 make u want 2 spit.

[JBoris]

62. I'd say keep it simple: Its about judgment, not experience. nt

[Motown_Johnny]

66. Did he spend part of his live as a sports announcer or a beauty contestant

No, he was a war hero