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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 02:37 PM
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I wonder what it would take for people not to vote for McCain....
The fact that around half the electorate is still considering voting for him is insane.

Some factors to consider:

-- 8 years of GOP craziness and 80 percent of the country thinking we are going in the wrong direction.

-- McCain has constant gaffes from the simply bumbling ones to ones that show he knows little about policy, foreign or domestic.

--He picked an inexperienced fruitcake for his running mate.

--The recent financial crises have obliterated the economic philosophy that he's adhered to his whole career.

-- Both McCain and his running mate appear to be pathological liars to any remotely objective observer.

-- he's been the biggest warhawk and cheerleader of a war that most people consider unnecessary and want to get out of.

And those are just the obvious ones. Not too many people know details of all his flip-flops, or his role in the Keating 5 etc. But his obvious shortcomings are massive.

It makes me curious. I bet McCain could strangle a cat and beat up an old lady at a press conference or something and he'd still get about 30 percent in the polls. At least the hardcore RWers would still think he was the best choice.

It's amazing how so much can be so bad and the difference in candidates and solutions can be so stark, yet we still have so many people who think he's the way to go. Yikes.
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orestes Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 02:39 PM
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1. It would take Barack pulling a
Michael Jackson and turning himself white
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 02:44 PM
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2. It would take Rush and Hannity and Fox and Coulter and Beck and
O'Liely and the corner preacher to all say in unison that Obama was the man. It will never happen. My mother will ride on the train to *ell with those folks before she will vote for Obama. The sad part is that she isn't savvy enough to know that the others will jump off before they reach their destination. I have had to give up on her.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 02:44 PM
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3. Some of my GOP friends would vote for Hitler if he was a repub
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 06:05 PM
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21. He probably would've been
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 02:45 PM
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4. Maybe convince the anti-Democrat dimwits to stay home, since McCain has
run on the strengths of, then summarily dismissed the merits of Goldwater, Reagan, and now is desperately trying (and failing) to run from George Bush?

Or maybe they couldn't care less about major conservative leaders? :shrug:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 02:49 PM
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7. Yesterday I had a woman send me a message on myspace
saying she's voting for McCain-Palin because we need Alaska's oil. :argh:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 02:53 PM
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8. If they'd just stay home; that's all we need from the dimwit dittoheads.
I swear...
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 02:45 PM
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5. Make Obama 100% white instead of 50%...and his wife and children, too!!
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 02:48 PM
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6. Electroshock therapy.
They're so stuck on stupid that I consider it a mental illness.
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abburdlen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 03:00 PM
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9. more than a dozen working brain cells?
You can also still find people who actually believe the world is flat.
There are a shocking number of dumb people in the world.

If you pressed most people supporting McCain I imagine you'd find it was mostly because they didn't like Obama.
It's nothing positive about their candidate - just negatives about ours.
Their minds won't be changed, we just have register enough new voters to cancel out the idiot vote.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 03:06 PM
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10. 4 years ago, my great-uncle sent me a newspaper clipping
It was one of those segments when they go around and ask people a question and put their picture and their answer in the paper. One guy said he was voting for Kerry, and those two old ladies said they were voting for Bush. And they both had ludicrous answers something like "John Kerry wants to put the United Nations in control of our country" or "Bush will prevent Bin Laden and Saddam from attacking us again." My uncle wrote a caption that said "Two morons will outvote one genius everytime." :)

So I'm all for registering as many Dem voters as possible. :)
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abburdlen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 03:16 PM
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11. Every McCain bumper sticker
is two new voters I need to get register.

Not that I'm opposed to trying to convince people to change their mind about Obama but it isn't worth the aggravation with some brain dead folks.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 03:30 PM
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12. with some people there is nothing you can say
Facts don't matter, if they want to believe the sky isn't blue they won't do it, even if you tell them to look up and see for themselves. Minds are made up and that's it. :)
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 03:37 PM
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13. Maybe a complete and total
meltdown during one the debates? The pukes are going to vote for him no matter what. Forget them. The moderates and independents are the ones to focus on.
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lovelydem Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 03:42 PM
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14. there are people who absolutely refuse to vote democrat
they think the republican party is the same one their parents voted for
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 03:44 PM
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15. Death.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 03:47 PM
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16. I talked to a veteran today and he told me the vets in Manchester NH are
supporting McCain no matter what. NO MATTER WHAT. They will NEVER EVER vote democrat EVER.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 05:12 PM
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17. that's just sad
It really burns me up McCain's horrid record on Vets issues too.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 05:26 PM
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18. I can understand the brotherhood of vets, but being a POW doesn't
entitle you to the presidency. This vet wanted to know why McCain, when given a choice to leave, decided to stay a POW. I'm wondering about that myself.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 06:29 PM
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25. they were under orders not to leave
The ranking officers imprisoned got word out to everyone that nobody was to leave. McCain wasn't the only one, they tried to get lots of POWs to leave. Most of them stayed, the ones who didn't ruined their military careers by leaving. If McCain had left early he would have never had a shot at making admiral, he probably would have gotten booted out, unless his father could have pulled enough strings to keep him in, but it would have been an embarrassment to his McCain and his father if he had left, especially since it would have been used as propaganda against the USA. McCain while campaigning makes it sound like what he did in saying no to release was a rare singular thing, but I watched a documentary on POWS that McCain was in and they talked about how alot of POWs were approached with the same offer. The ones who left were ostracized and McCain would have been too. The only person who was allowed early release that they all considered legit was a man who had memorized all of the names of every POW in the camps.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:51 PM
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26. Thank you.
I appreciate that info.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 06:09 PM
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22. I'm surprised they don't know how many more Democrats have served
in the military than Republicans.

The New Hampshire Gazette publicized this list when Republicans were mocking the valiant military service of Max Cleland and John Kerry.

http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html CHECK OUT THE CHICKENHAWK LIST if you haven't seen it already.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 05:29 PM
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19. If he had picked a pro-choice running mate
A lot of conservatives wouldn't vote for him.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 05:46 PM
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20. Dump Palin
That's about the only way that I can think he can get people, at least the ones voting for him only BECAUSE of Palin, to not vote for or at least keep them at home on election day.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 06:09 PM
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23. He would have to perform an abortion live on TV immediately after coming out of the closet. n/t
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 06:18 PM
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24. Their heads would have to be surgically removed from their asses...
They see the Republican party as the "club of winners" ~ or they see the Republican party as the "moral, patriotic" ones.

They are completely irrational ~ and in denial about the crimes of the GOP.

I'll bet lots of Republicans would even vote for McCain if he were diagnosed with a mental disorder.
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