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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 05:59 PM
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Today's Polls: Obama Now Better than 2:1 Favorite (Nate Silver)
Today's Polls: Obama Now Better than 2:1 Favorite
from The Plank by Nate Silver

Let's not equivocate too much here. Over the course of the past several days, there has been a rather dramatic shift in this election toward Barack Obama. Our trendline estimate, which is engineered to be fairly conservative, registers the swing as equaling roughly 4 points over the course of the past week.

Changes of this velocity are unusual outside of the convention periods and the debates, especially in close elections. It took John McCain about 60 days and tens of millions of advertising dollars to whittle Obama's lead down from roughly 5 points at its peak in early June, to the 1-point lead that Obama held heading into the conventions. Obama has swing the numbers that much in barely a week.

Of course, we never really were entirely outside of gravitational field of the conventions, and probably at least half of this bounceback for Obama is merely the more-or-less inevitable consequence of McCain's convention bounce ending. But the fact is that Obama is in a stronger position now than he was immediately before the conventions. We now have him winning the election 71.5 percent of the time, which is about as high as that number has been all year.

There are two reasons why that number is as high as it is. Firstly, we are more than halfway through the penultimate month of the campaign, so even relatively small leads are fairly meaningful. But secondly, Obama has developed a structural advantage in the Electoral College that is understated by the popular vote margin. If we break the election down into its four fundamental scenarios, it looks like this:

62.5% Obama wins Popular Vote and Electoral College
0.7% Obama wins Popular Vote, loses Electoral College
27.8% McCain wins Popular Vote and Electoral College
9.0% McCain wins Popular Vote, loses Electoral College

Obama is roughly a 63/37 favorite to win the popular vote -- numbers that ought intuitively to look pretty reasonable for a candidate who holds a 2-point national lead fortysome days before the election. It's that 9 percent of the time he wins the Electoral College while losing the popular vote that make his 2-point lead much more robust. If the states maintain their positioning relative to one another -- and they may well not -- Obama probably has about a 1-point cushion in which he'll remain the favorite to win the Electoral College even while losing the popular vote.

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/09/19/today-s-polls-obama-now-better-than-2-1-favorite.aspx
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 06:04 PM
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1. Nate's site, fivethirtyeight, link here:
Great news!!!

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

I hope it just gets better and better...

:kick:
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 06:05 PM
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2. 98% chance that voting machine errors favor McCain 100% of the time
sorry about being a negative nellie, but dammit...I'm McScared.
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 06:07 PM
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3. I can understand that fear
Here's to hoping that the Democratic framework in place can help to combat the excesses of Republican vote rigging and voter caging.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 06:27 PM
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4. More odds



American (+105) Decimal (3.50) Fractional (5/2)


Future Wager
BET $

PICKS: 0


Sort Alphabetically Sort By Odds

Barack Obama -150 John McCain +110






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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 06:30 PM
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5. Sorry to ask a stupid question but...
is this good or bad for Obama. I don't understand how to read that.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 06:54 PM
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6. They way it is set up is...
you would need to bet $150 on Obama to win $100. Or, bet $100 on McCain to win $110. In other words, the odds are saying that Obama's chances of winning are significantly higher.
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