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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:19 PM
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Breaking on Olbermann: Palin's pastor problems are HUGE!
Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 07:56 PM by endthewar
She's on videotape saying that her pastor helped her become governor. Keith just revealed that he got his start as a witch hunter, no metaphor, an official witch hunter. :rofl:

Time for some Rev. Wright payback! :evilgrin:

On EDIT: A link provided by NYC_SKP on Pastor Thomas Muthee:

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/witch-hunter-that-prayed-palin-into-office-is-coming-back-to-wasilla/
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:19 PM
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1. Oh, sweet.
I have to wait for the podcast... but thanks for the preview. :hi:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:20 PM
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2. Did you hear him say that her pastor will make Rev. Wright look like Father
Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 07:30 PM by No Surrender
Flannagan of Boys Town?

:rofl:

edited for clarification :dunce:
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:21 PM
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3. Yeah I heard, but wasn't sure who Father Flannagan was
Just assumed that it was a movie before my time since I'm still in my 20's. It sounded pretty funny though. :-)
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:26 PM
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9. Father Flannagan is a real person who founded Boys Town, a home for
orphaned and abandoned boys.

Spencer Tracy played Father Flannagan in the movie Boys Town.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:27 PM
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10. Thanks for the info
:hi:
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:40 PM
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21. It's now The Girls and Boys Town. I used to work for them in their New York location.
It's a fantastic organization and it's helped young people for decades. He did and his legacy still does amazing work. They're professional, curtious, loving set of people I was so happy when I worked for that organization. They actually reinforced my love for non-profits after a very bad experience.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:21 PM
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4. I want one fucking minute of Palin's Pastor on television for every minute they did on Wright.
This is something we need to demand.

They crucified a very good man, Reverend Wright, and the media OWES it to Obama and to Reverend Wright to dedicate minute for minute in "balance".

Of course, they won't do it because her pastor is white.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:25 PM
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7. Actually, this pastor is black
Keith had his picture up. The pastor you're thinking of is from one of Palin's other churches I think, the one she grew up in. I think this is the pastor from her church as an adult, but not completely sure.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:09 PM
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29. In an ironic twist
Isn't this guy Kenyan?
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:21 PM
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30. Yeah, I noticed that weird little twist too
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:02 PM
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39. He was a guest speaker at her church
Pentecostals interpret the Bible literally, so they actually believe in demons, evil spirits, etc. Here's what I want to know, though. If this guy is a real witch hunter, why didn't the tundra turd melt?
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:36 PM
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15. As an indication of how crazy the Wright media shitstorm was...
I had bookmarks on my iPhone (I know, I drive a prius too, but no birkenstocks), bookmarks for Google news searches for Obama+Superdelegates and just Obama, so I could check the news anytime, anywhere....

One afternoon shopping with girlfriend, I checked on the Obama google news and among the first 20 results, all were about Wright, and this was weeks after the worst of it.

That's how hard they worked against him, lets never forget how improbable his win in the primaries was and how warped the media is in it's coverage.

:patriot:
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:40 PM
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19. Agreed. It was a one-sided hitjob on Rev. Wright and Obama
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:22 PM
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5. He actually specialized in witches who caused auto accidents.
Believe it or not.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:26 PM
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8. Am I to infer that the witch sold auto insurance?
In any case, that's some messed-up minister.
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crazy_vanilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:16 PM
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49. heeeeeeee heeeeee
You're cracking me up :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:34 PM
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14. You are kidding, right?
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:37 PM
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16. Read 'em and weep, Baby
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:46 PM
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24. Whoa.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 06:00 PM
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59. The video's gone!
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 06:24 PM
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60. Some scary
stuff there - I'm a little bit in shock.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:38 PM
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17. Not kidding. Olbermann covering it in COMPLETE detail right now.
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:52 PM
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27. Ok I actually laughed when I read that.
And I had a mouthful of mushroom pizza.
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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:25 PM
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6. Payback's a bitch, Barbie! n/t
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:11 PM
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42. I want that bumpersticker. nt
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crazy_vanilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:30 PM
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11. details, please
I have it recording on the DVR, but will not be watching it till later
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:40 PM
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20. The Times of London and Christian Science Monitor
have handled this story on her pastor .... He's quoting off of the paper.
It must be from today's paper.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:48 PM
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25. Times link
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crazy_vanilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:17 PM
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51. thanks a bunch for the linky
:bounce:
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crazy_vanilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:16 PM
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50. thanks
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KathieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:32 PM
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12. Love it!
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harry_pothead Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:33 PM
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13. I said back then
That playing the Wright card would open up a big can of worms for the GOP in making crazy preacher comments fair game. Now it's open season on all the disgusting rightwingnut preacher remarks.
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mscuedawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:39 PM
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18. Am I to believe that God wanted her to be Governor...
:puke:
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:27 PM
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32. Matters not what you believe...
The thing is that she believes that she is governor because the witch hunter prayed her into office.



-Hoot
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crazy_vanilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:20 PM
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53. that would make a great bumper sticker "a witch hunter prayed me into office"
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:42 PM
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22. Here's your LINK to MUTHEE article.....results of search for muthee and palin
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/witch-hunter-that-prayed-palin-into-office-is-coming-back-to-wasilla/

Only three hits....I don't have time to do more research, but I'll look for a new post by one of you is there's anything here worth posting.

This HuffPost piece seems to be about a different pastor from the one KO mentioned.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/11/palin-pastor-gop-downplay_n_125632.html


NYC_SKP
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:05 PM
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40. lots of stuff on the google. nt
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:43 PM
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23. I knew the media would eventually get around to analyzing how cuckoo cuckoo she is
I think this might be the straw that broke the moose's back.
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orestes Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:50 PM
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26. This is just nuts
Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 07:52 PM by orestes
Witches? Really? Really? Completely mind bottling.

Some intrepid reporter needs to ask her about her views on Witches, if she would outlaw Witchcraft, and what she thinks the punishment for Witches should be. I imagine the answers would be quite illuminating, or at least as illuminating as the light given off by someone burning at the stake can be.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:05 PM
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28. This election is like Ma and Pa Kettle versus Einstein.
It dons on me that these people are repeating history. If they're involved in witch hunts, then just think of what they'll do with the economy. Or war, for that matter.


Where's my Ouija board?
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:22 PM
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31. Well, if he's a real witch-hunter,
I reckon he found one in Alaska.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:43 PM
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34. LOL!
Great point! I'd like to know more about how he became one of Palin's pastors. :evilgrin:
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:43 PM
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33. This may keep republicans from trotting out Rev. Wright.
That, to me, is the good news about this. I don't think the Obama campaign or democrats should push this pastor thing. But having it there as a deterrent to republicans dragging out Rev. Wright is very much a good thing.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:44 PM
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35. Trust me, the McCain campaign already has the Rev. Wright ads ready
We might as well get ready to counter with this. :-)
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:14 PM
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44. My thoughts exactly. This should nullify the Rev. Wright card
because if the McCain camp tries to play that, I don't know if some of those new fans of Sweet Sarah will like the idea that she's beholden to a Kenyan witch hunter for her election as Governor - or that she believes so.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:28 PM
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55. Exactly. {EOM}
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:51 PM
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36. It's all true..
She turned me into a Newt!
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:09 PM
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41. and McCain into a TOAD. nt
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:54 PM
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37. Muthee gets mention in this video...
Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 09:56 PM by TWriterD
at 01:21.

The ultimate reason why you shouldn't vote for Palin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=881TR0a6J6U

It's long and the commentary sucks, but it's worth it. In a terrifying fundie wingnut sort of way...
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:01 PM
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38. So does this play into why she named her children WITCH names????
just saying... she's nuts, we knew it, we KNEW it! TYPICALLY (I note this by saying that first, the Africans that are Christian typically are violently anti-gay in their rhetoric, and sometimes in their actions. I am a Christian who is gay, but I know who I am, nothing's going to change that. But these people are scary, and to know she has these connections says it all!


MORE AT www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:14 PM
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43. Witch Hunter that Prayed Palin into Office is Coming Back
Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 10:14 PM by Blue_In_AK
to Wasilla.

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/witch-hunter-that-prayed-palin-into-office-is-coming-back-to-wasilla/

Yes, you read that right. It really has gotten that absurd. I just had coffee with fellow blogger and Anchorage talk radio phenom Shannyn Moore. While we were fuming over the McCain hijacking of the Troopergate investigation, she got a call from MSNBC. They asked if she’d come on Keith Olbermann’s show tonight to talk about ‘the witch hunter’. The witch hunter, aka Pastor Muthee, was the guest pastor from Kenya that appeared at Palin’s church, The Wasilla Assembly of God, and “prayed over” Sarah to help her become governor.

Muthee began his life in ministry in Africa by hunting down a local woman named Mama Jane after proclaiming her a witch.

According to the Christian Science Monitor, six months of fervent prayer and research identified the source of the witchcraft as a local woman called Mama Jane, who ran a “divination” centre called the Emmanuel Clinic.

Her alleged involvement in fortune-telling and the fact that she lived near the site of a number of fatal car accidents led Pastor Muthee to publicly declare her a witch responsible for the town’s ills, and order her to offer up her soul for salvation or leave Kiambu.

After Pastor Muthee declared Mama Jane a witch, the townspeople became suspicious and began to turn on her, demanding that she be stoned. Public outrage eventually led the police to raid her home, where they fired gunshots, killing a pet python which they believed to be a demon.

After the witch hunting incident, Muthee founded the World Faith Church, also known as the “Prayer Cave.” The Prayer cave has birthed more than 400 churches across Africa - in Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Sudan and Rwanda.

While Palin was mayor of Wasilla, Muthee came to speak at her church. Here’s what Sarah Palin has to say about the experience, captured on video taken in the church. Keep in mind, this quote didn’t come from her long ago past. This happened IN JUNE, 2008…three months ago.

“As I was mayor and Pastor Muthee was here and he was praying over me, and you know how he speaks and he’s so bold. And he was praying “Lord make a way, Lord make a way.”

“And I’m thinking, this guy’s really bold, he doesn’t even know what I’m going to do, he doesn’t know what my plans are. And he’s praying not “oh Lord if it be your will may she become governor,” no, he just prayed for it. He said “Lord make a way and let her do this next step. And that’s exactly what happened.”

“So, again, very very powerful, coming from this church.”

Muthee has spoken at the Wasilla Assembly of God church no less than 10 times, including the time he prayed over then Mayor Sarah Palin, giving her the divine shortcut to governorship. He didn’t ask questions. He didn’t blink. Now, he’s coming back. He is scheduled for multiple speaking engagements in Wasilla this week.

The official vision statement of Muthee’s church (taken directly from the website) is…are you ready?…

Touching lives for total community transformation, thereby taking cities and nations.

Taking cities and nations? Most of us would like our cities and nation to stay just where they are, thankyouverymuch.

When Shannyn was talking in a serious, businesslike way about coordinating with a major media outlet to discuss the ‘witch hunter’, it struck me how absurd this is. We both started to laugh so hard, we couldn’t stop. Our governor believes in the power of a guy who believes that demons live in pythons, and witches cause traffic accidents. She believes that a Kenyan witch-hunter prayed her into office. Ladies and Gentlemen, behold the Republican candidate for Vice President of the United States of America, and tell me what that says about the Presidential candidate who nominated her.

<video here>

When you decide whether to laugh or cry, let me know.

Meanwhile, grab a beer, or some popcorn, and tune in to Keith Olbermann’s show tonight, hear the conversation with Shannyn, and marvel at the frightening absurdity that we’ve come to know as Sarah Palin.

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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:18 PM
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45. Palin has many worrying connections to radical religious groups. I find it scary not funny
A writer, dogemperor, on http://Talk2Action.org has pointed out how her church is connected with the radical militant group Joel's Army. Considering the number of violent acts in the US by so-called Christians including things that if performed by any other group would be called and charged as terrorism I think it is wise to be wary and pay attention to politicans like Palin.

Souther Poverty Law on Joel's Army
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=964
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:24 PM
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46. Unbelievable.
I just watched this on the MSNBC site. Incredible. Will this get all the play it deserves? Somehow I think not.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:13 PM
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47. FOR OLBERMANN: AUDIO OF BISHOP MUTHEE ADVOCATING VIOLENCE...
Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 01:02 PM by The Night Owl
Audio of two sermons given by Bishop Muthee are available at the KingsGate Church website…

Service 1: http://www.kingsgateuk.com/Media/PlayMedia.aspx?download=file&media_id=219&file_id=279

Service 2: http://www.kingsgateuk.com/Media/PlayMedia.aspx?download=file&media_id=220&file_id=280

Mirror for Service 1: http://irregulartimes.com/muthee1.mp3

At about 23:45 of Service 1, Muthee declares that the more “violent” believers become the quicker they will see things happen…

“The violent take it by force. People that have spiritual backbones are the ones that are going to advance. They are the ones that will move forward. I thank God for what I see happening in this place. I thank God for the vision, the passion that I can see here. And my word is this: the more violent you become, the more committed you become, the quicker you will see things happen in this region.” - Bishop Muthee


At about 16:30 of Service 2, Muthee recounts meeting a woman who told him that her prayers resurrected a dead child brought to some sort of prayer meeting in Bolivia. Muthee professes his faith in the woman’s account and declares that he longs for the kind prayer meeting she spoke of.

Weird stuff. The sound of Muthee's voice is enough to send chills down the spines of voters.

Please send the links to Muthee's sermons to KO!
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:16 PM
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48. Reminder: Bishop Muthee is speaking at Wasilla Assembly of God today and tomorrow...
According to the Wasilla Assembly of God website, Bishop Muthee will be giving sermons at the church this weekend starting today...

http://app.razorplanet.com/acct/40149-8554/resources/Up...

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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:26 PM
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54. LOL: Information indicating that Bishop Muthee has experience in demonic resistance and exorcism.
Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 12:27 PM by The Night Owl
On page 98 of Spiritual Mapping: The Turbulent Career of a Contested American Missionary Paradigm, 1989-2005...

Before moving to Kiambu, Muthee prayed and fasted for six months; this was meant to function as ‘proactive spiritual warfare’. Muthee did so because of his past experience in demonic resistance and exorcism.



PDF: http://igitur-archive.library.uu.nl/dissertations/2008-0710-200706/holvast.pdf





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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:18 PM
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52. Witches are causing traffic accidents across this country
Yet you people choose to do nothing! Wake up America!
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crazy_vanilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:45 PM
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57. no kidding, so that was it, bring in more witch hunters
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:43 PM
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56. Looks like Palin's only black friend is a complete nut!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 03:48 PM
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58. Makes sense to me!
Wouldn't you, by definition, have to be certifiable to be her friend?:evilgrin:
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