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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:38 PM
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Oh, this is really rich.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/09/19/attack-by-association-viewed-as-fair-game-by-mccain-camp/


The McCain campaign claims that Obama is the one who started "attacks by association." Though I'm certain he knew this was going to happen, and is already planning on how to deal with it.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:41 PM
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1. Prove it.
If they're saying Obama started it, then they must know WHEN he started it ... so let's hear it. What did Obama say and when did he say it?

I bet they don't have an answer. :eyes:

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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:46 PM
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2. Yeah, let's see a link, McBush!
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:47 PM
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3. It's all that shit about Limbaugh.
Nevermind that quotes were exactly what they said they were, no matter how much the Comedian tries to rephrase them. And he is definetly a "water-carrier" for McCain.

But even then, I'm pretty sure that McCain's people have been playing this for a while now.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:52 PM
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4. But that's a recent ad.
McCain and the GOP have been attacking Obama for quite a while now. (Rezko, William Ayers, etc.)
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:54 PM
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5. Do you really think they'd acknowledge that?
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:58 PM
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7. Of course not.
But the fact that they keep saying things about Obama that are so easily debunked - by anyone with short-term memory and a computer - is both amusing and pathetic!
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:02 AM
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9. They'll do it as long as their feet aren't held to the fire about them.
And though I am genuinely surprised with, and pleased by, the media's seeming increasing desire to call them out on several issues, they still let too many issues slide.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:04 AM
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11. I can't help wondering how the polls would look if the media was actually doing its job
:-(
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:56 PM
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6. I actually think this would be politcal suicide for McCain
I get the feeling that almost everyone in America knows who Wright is and what he said. Obama's race speech is probably the most watched Youtube regarding a politician. It was heavily covered. If McCain pulls this race card, and it will be a heavy race card, he will have a political price to pay with a lot of folks. His credibility will be shot and he will have been responsible for tearing a country apart in a difficult time. He would never survive it. Obama would have every reason to take him down in anyway he feels. He will enrage black people to the polls like never before. How did the Wright thing play in MS in that special election? Louisiana? I don't think they've thunk this through.

God's will, will be done.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:00 AM
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8. If you agree with Johnathon Alter, he already has.
The use of scary images of Obama and Raines (another black man) and a "poor old white woman," as well as attributing Joe biden's "she's good looking" comment (which is itself taken so far out of context it's unbelievable) to Obama in the "so disrespectful" ad, calling up those images of black men finding white women "good lookin'."
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:03 AM
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10. But using Wright goes beyond that because there is no excuse for it
Raines, a state senate vote, and the disrespectful ad was tangentially related to politics in some way. Wright is totally off subject and used only to stoke racial resentment and fears. There is no political justification for it. Most Americans will see it for what it is. If John McCain pays for an ad with Rev. Wright, he will tank his political career. End of story.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:05 AM
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13. I understand that completely.
I'm just saying that using racially-tinged ads would not be a first for the McCain campaign.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:05 AM
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12. They are desperate.
Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 12:06 AM by Life Long Dem
And will only dig a hole deeper.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:08 AM
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14. Given that the focus has really shifted to the economy, and this new bailout won't solve the
longterm issues (meaning it will still be at the forefront of people's minds), I really don't think this will have a longterm effect, especially given how Obama has addressed this in the past.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:08 AM
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15. "he started it!" What the f*ck IS this? Romper Room?
Is behavioral regression part of Alzheimer's disease?
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