Heather MC
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Sat Sep-20-08 09:09 AM
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Obama was #894 out of 899 in his graduating class, |
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What if Obama was #894 out of 899 in his graduating class instead of the smartest guy in the room -proven by his becoming president of Harvard Law Review?
Then would he still be "uppity"?
It's really irritating me that the MSM is acting like Barack's hard work at Columbia & Harvard make him a bad choice for president because he is somehow too smart but wrecking 5 planes and being the 5th dumbest person in his class makes McCain a better choice?
I personally want the smartest guy in the room to represent me.....not the fool who skated by because his "daddy" was an Admiral.
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Sat Sep-20-08 09:11 AM
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1. 51% of dumbfucks voted for dumbfuck Bush in '04 |
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Sat Sep-20-08 09:21 AM
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6. Actually 100% of the dumbfucks voted.... |
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...to have a beer with Preznit Fuckstick. Just like 100% of the dumbfucks will vote for Sarah Pornstar because they think they will have a chance to eff her if they vote for her.
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Sat Sep-20-08 05:45 PM
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31. You and I need to hit some bars |
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Oh wait...I'm sober 20 years. I'll go with you anyhow.
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Sat Sep-20-08 10:10 AM
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I'm not convinced that Bush actually won the popular vote in '04. I still suspect the exit polls early that night were correct. I think the voting machines were bugged republicon.
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Sat Sep-20-08 09:13 AM
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2. Anyone who looks like Barack Obama...if they were 894 |
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Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 09:14 AM by ikojo
out of 899 and still got into Harvard Law School, well they would be accused of being an affirmative action admission. In reality it was John McCain who has benefited from affirmative action, the affirmative action available to the rich and well connected. The same affirmative action program that George W Bush has benefited from his entire life.
Interesting how the word "the same" comes up when discussing John McSame, oh I mean John McCain!
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Sat Sep-20-08 11:49 AM
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27. Sounds like the Good Ole Boy network to me |
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I wonder if Palin is going to break up the Naval Academy? :rofl:
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Sat Sep-20-08 09:19 AM
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3. What I'd like to know is how many other Naval Academy grads ... |
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Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 09:19 AM by krkaufman
... finished with that sort of record and *still* advanced to flight school? And how many other pilots/trainees crashed 4 planes and kept their flight status (allowing for the 5th in-combat crash).
(Hint: McCain advanced in life in much the same way as George W Bush, due to his family connections.)
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Sat Sep-20-08 09:19 AM
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4. The freepers swear he's dumb because of his speaking (ummmm) |
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That must mean that George Bush is the stupidest president we've ever had.
Oh, wait.
He is!
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Sat Sep-20-08 10:18 AM
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21. Ha--they must never have set foot in a university classroom then |
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Profs talk like that a lot. They know what they're talking about and can do it for hours without cue cards. Obama taught Constitutional Law for ten years.
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Sat Sep-20-08 09:19 AM
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5. removing the caliber of intelligence a individual has allows the GOP to |
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have more control over which politician they choose to manipulate. They don't care about what's right for the country,they care about what's right for their bigotted greedy asses
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Sat Sep-20-08 09:21 AM
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7. It would probably lead to a debate on affirmative action. n/t |
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Sat Sep-20-08 09:26 AM
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8. I think we never would have heard of Barack Obama |
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i think he would be a Janitor in the Naval Academy
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Sat Sep-20-08 09:27 AM
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Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 10:12 AM by Loge23
Randi Rhodes suggests this mantra to challenge the "unprepared" charge: Obama graduated from Columbia University, one of the most respected university's in the world. Obama graduated FIRST IN HIS CLASS from Harvard Law. Obama was a constitutional law Professor for 12 years Obama worked as a community organizer in the inner city of Chicago with signifcant positive results for the working poor. (be proud of this, not defensive). Obama was a successful and popular State Senator for eight years. Obama is a successful U.S. Senator for four years during which he has proven right on Iraq, and the current economic crisis (which he warned about years ago).
"What has your candidate done?"
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Sat Sep-20-08 10:07 AM
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14. Correction: he graduated from Columbia University |
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Michelle went to Princeton.
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Sat Sep-20-08 10:13 AM
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17. Thank you! Noted! (eom) |
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Sat Sep-20-08 09:27 AM
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10. Stupid white Americans don't want a President who makes them feel stupid. |
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That's why they loved Bush (and why our country's in the shitter).
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Sat Sep-20-08 09:40 AM
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11. Americans shouldn't complain about the schools then either. |
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I mean, having smart teachers will just make students and their parents feel inferior.
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Sat Sep-20-08 10:04 AM
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13. And yet MSNBC just reported a poll that 55% of Americans would rather have Obama... |
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...teach their children.
So that's:
No to stupid teachers
Yes to stupid Presidents.
:wtf:
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Sat Sep-20-08 09:40 AM
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12. Somehow, stupidity (or ignorance) has become something to be arrogant about |
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rather than something to be ashamed of. I can remember feeling that Ronald Reagan was talking down to me in his speeches back in 1980, when I was 14. I was insulted by it. I too want the smartest guy in the room to represent me. Guess that makes me an "elitist."
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Sat Sep-20-08 10:08 AM
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15. I wonder what he really was out of his class? Education is definitely not valued in this country |
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Sat Sep-20-08 10:13 AM
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18. very Orwellian, isn't it? |
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Success=Failure, and Incompetence=Competence.
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Sat Sep-20-08 10:16 AM
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19. Maybe if he had gone to two community colleges in order to get a pitiful Communications GPA... |
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back up to speed he also wouldn't seem so "uppity"
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Sat Sep-20-08 10:16 AM
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20. He would have never made it this far - McCain is only hanging by a thread as it is |
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I want the smartest guy too, but honestly, I think we are down to the fact that some are uncomfortable with a black person being that smartest guy. And would pick a douchebag dummy because he shares their own skin pigment. And you really can't be more dumb than that. So I think that is part of it; most is just the dilemma of how to get through to people who can't critically think their way out of a parking lot.
A lot of stupid people are either threatened by someone who is "smart" and saying things they can't follow, or they simply don't understand what a smart guy like Obama is saying, so they think he is stupid. That is no joke, I have heard people say that, after Obama has said something that I think is particularly well thought out - the dumbest people I know say "did you listen to that guy - he made no sense! He is too dumb to be president. Must have gotten in with affirmative action." Okay.
Friend of mine from law school and I used to debate endlessly whether truly stupid people know they are stupid - some do know their limitations, others haven't a clue. I don't get that - I sure as hell know people smarter than me, and I neither resent it or have any problem acknowledging that someone is smarter than me.
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Sat Sep-20-08 10:26 AM
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23. Since they are racist themselves, |
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they assume that Obama is going to give preference to the needs and wishes of Black Americans over them. They can't imagine a black guy moving beyond his color, thinking of himself first as an American and acting as President of all of us.
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Sat Sep-20-08 11:42 AM
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26. Yes. I have heard the talk and the irrational fear |
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that the first thing a black man is going to do will be to not only show prefence to his own race (like the white racists show to theirs) but will take further steps to exact "revenge" and do some serious payback to whites on behalf of his race's injustices.
It was a bizarre mind blower to hear this from people I had previously considered to be normal, not stellar citizens in all respects, but let's call them your run of the mill ordinary people. Same people bitch down hispanic folks as well. Not a one of them has been able to move beyond their white color in all their years on the planet, so no, they don't acknowledge that possibility in their narrow scary world.
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Sat Sep-20-08 10:18 AM
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22. Here's what your country needs... |
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Public funding of every post-secondary education, with every school refusing to teach a secular curriculum and every school accepting legacy admissions forced to either close its doors or lose all accreditation and funding.
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Sat Sep-20-08 10:37 AM
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24. You really should change your headline. Most people here are skimmers not readers... |
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and the misleading headlines not only get old, but they also perpetuate BS internet rumors.
How about "What if Obama was #894 out of 899 in his graduating class"
I totally get your point, instead the people would call him a slacker. You can't win with racists and republicans, they make their own reality.
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Sat Sep-20-08 11:01 AM
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25. Yes - he'd still be called "uppity" |
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This time for having the nerve to think that, with his mediocre educational qualifications, he has the right to run for president. "Uppity" has nothing to do with a black person's qualifications - it applies to ANY black person, whatever their background, who thinks they're good enough to compete with or otherwise stand equal to white people.
Obama's "uppityness" is based, not on his "elite" credentials, but on the mere fact that he's running for president and thinks he has every right to be where he is.
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Sat Sep-20-08 11:51 AM
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28. Does anyone know what became of the 10 people who graduated within 5 spots of McCain? |
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It would be interesting to compare their fates to their similarly skilled but much more connected classmate
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Sat Sep-20-08 11:53 AM
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29. That makes McLame soooo close to the "common people" |
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Sat Sep-20-08 12:02 PM
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30. some people don't like someone who wants more out of his or her life |
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than they do.
That's why they think we are elitist. Because we want more from our lives which they interpret to mean we are saying their lives are worthless.
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Sat Sep-20-08 05:51 PM
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32. I see that McCain is going to a reunion soon. Maybe MSM will pick up on this now |
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