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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 09:38 AM
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We've been begging for universal health care for 40+ years....no dice. But when...
corporate America screws itself and everyone else over it takes 10 hot minutes to cut them a half trillion dollar check.

Yeah, that sounds about par for the course these days.



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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 09:40 AM
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1. Dupe. nt
Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 09:40 AM by babylonsister
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 09:40 AM
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2. Priorities, man, priorities! nt
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 09:40 AM
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The World's Only Superpower
and Third World Dump.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 09:40 AM
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3. Funny how that happens.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 09:45 AM
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4. Maybe that's the plan, stick us with so much
Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 09:51 AM by doc03
damn debt that even if a Democrat gets elected it's off the table. Poison pill! Then after 4 years it will be just like the 96 election vote the Democrats out they never delivered on what they promised. McCain ads are already blaming the current mess on the Democrats control of Congress and Obama and Biden.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 09:47 AM
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5. No "maybe" about it.
See: Grover Norquist
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 09:53 AM
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6. Sorry I can't read Chinese! I can imagine what
it says if it's from Grover Norquist.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 10:03 AM
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7. With this mess I don't see how Obama
Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 10:04 AM by doc03
could possibly give the middle class the tax cut he promises. That's the same thing they did with Clinton, than in 96 they said Clinton never gave you that middle class tax cut. Then there is McCain he is going to cut everyones taxes, he may even do it, Bush did. They don't care about debt their objective is to discredit all government.
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LiberadorHugo Donating Member (557 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 10:11 AM
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8. Reminds me of what fucking goes on here in Canada...
People are clamouring for free tuition and a sufficient investment into our public health care system...The neo-liberals (some of which are to the left of Obama, but nonetheless cannot conceive of a world outside of neo-liberal market-worshipping la-la-land.) say that we can't fucking afford it, and yet my country is spending far more in Afghanistan than it would could us to fund the tuition costs of every post-secondary student in Canada for a year. SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!

As an aside, the Carter Administration must hold its head in shame for it role in backing the Mujahideen in Afghanistan. It may be a position that the Soviet-bashing right thumped its chest about (see Rambo, for instance), but last I checked, it was the Carter administration (along with American allies in Beijing and Western Europe) who started the arming and the funding of the Mujahideen. As much as both sides engaged in less than savoury activities, the goal of the pro-Moscow reformists in Afghanistan was land reform away from feudalism, the secularisation of Afghanistan, and universal education for men and women alike...Doesn't sound all that different from what the liberal bourgeoisie did in Quebec in the 1960s, but nope...Since the Big Bad Borscht people were backing them, we had to help Muslim reactionaries. Fuck Ronald Reagan and fuck Jimmy Carter!!!!!!!!
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tech3149 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 10:23 AM
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9. Until the people really run the government, nothing will change
Unfortunately, we aren't organized enough to spend millions to influence our elected representatives. Hey, wait a minute! Why should we have to spend money to influence our elected representatives? We already have the influence through our vote. Now if only we could get enough information to the LIV's (low information voters)so that a majority could make informed decisions.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 10:31 AM
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10. Good point
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