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carpe diem Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:09 PM
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Not THIS again: Racial views steer some white Dems away from Obama
Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 12:17 PM by jg82567
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/washington/AP-AP-Yahoo-Poll-Obama-Race.html?_r=3&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=login

it's worth reading to see just how full of b.s. it is...it is yet another in a long line of efforts by the
traditional media to make this election about race...they have been relentlessly polling and analyzing every racial aspect of this thing since Obama announced and i am convinced of one thing, they are far more obsessed with it than the majority of the electorate and their constant obsessing over it serves as a self-fulfilling prophecy to make it as much of a 'concern' for the voters as it is for the TM...

a little trip down memory lane:

-Obama isn't Black enough, he can't get the Black vote against the wife of the 1st Black president (now polling at over 90% of the Black vote)

-Obama can't get the Hispanic vote, they have negative things to say about Black people in surveys, there is Black/Brown racial conflict, etc. (now polling over 60% of the Hispanic vote)

-Obama cant't get the working class vote (http://www.bluehorizondaily.com/2008/05/obamas-white-working-class-problem.html)
-excerpt: Looking at other states that have less racial diversity (that is, almost all white), Obama has done really well vs. Clinton. In Oregon, where 85% of the voting population was white (and only 3% was black), Obama did exceptionally well among white voters, beating Clinton by 15 percentage points. Among those who didn't have a college education Obama was still able to get 46% of the vote, and among those who earned less than $50,000 per year Obama once again beat Clinton, 54% to 45%.

Other states with high white working class populations are reflective of this trend: in Wisconsin, Obama beat Clinton by ten points in the under $50,000 a year category; in Indiana, where 9 in 20 voters earned less than $50,000, Obama was able to split the category with Clinton, 50%-50%.

So why does the media paint Obama as someone who can't get the working class vote? It may be that they are not very perceptive. The state primaries that the media cite as troubling for Obama and his effort to get the working class vote are all geographically within Appalachia. It should be said, then, that Obama has an Appalachian problem, not a white working class problem.
( btw, see current polling from West Virginia)

Obama can't get the White women's vote because of bitterness over primaries and Hillary's loss (http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters/362158/white_women_shift_giving_obama_the_lead)



Every 'concern with race' poll that has been done has turned out not be one. This is the traditional media's (i.e., the status quo) 'concern' more than anyone else's. The real reason the polls are so close and THEY know it is right here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/enough-heres-why-the-poll_b_127167.html


I swear I hate these people.

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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:13 PM
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1. I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist and I am NOT among those who
believe there's some grand media bias scheme, but if there is anything the media is biased toward it is: sensationalism.

And what better way to sensationalize this election than make it about the very sensitive and potentially explosive issue of race?

That's what's going on here. Not a concerted effort, but a widespread desire to see major conflict and clash.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:14 PM
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2. its clearly having an effect.
I don't know why anyone would try to deny it. The cool thing is he will win in spite of it.

Its absolutely why the polls are close at all though. Unless you really think mcsame is attractive to that large a portion of the electorate.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:17 PM
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3. Is this the 9th time this has been posted today?
Or just the 8th??

:shrug:
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carpe diem Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:19 PM
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4. don't know...
but it's the 1st time i've posted it...
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:19 PM
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5. The 12th time....but who's keeping count.
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:20 PM
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6. If it's race, or close, it's the media and direct mail lies-and, yes, stoking race.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:23 PM
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7. This is an attempt to demoralize Obama supporters and divide Democrats, making
us feel that we chose the wrong candidate "because the racist whites won't vote for him." What we need to do is keep working hard to get young voters to the polls. How many times are they going to remind us that Obama is black. Yes, we get it: Obama is black. Obama has trouble with the white voters. Yes, indeed we get it. We understand. And hopefully, we know exactly what you fuckheads in the M$M are trying to do!!
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