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Sat Sep-20-08 12:30 PM
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Is Anyone Else Relieved McCain Didn't Choose Bloomberg For VP? |
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I always felt a McCain/Bloomberg ticket would be our greatest threat (followed by McCain/Lieberman), and now i'm really relieved he didn't make that choice because it would be more difficult for us to win the economic debate against that ticket.
At first I was worried about Palin, as i'm sure many of you were, but now i'm actually kinda happy McCain took that gamble because I think her appeal is sinking pretty quickly. People see that she doesn't have the knowledge for the position and they're turning away from her. They're also sing her as divisive and extreme.
Bloomberg would have been the opposite of those things. He would have been seen as incredibly knowledgeable, bi-partisan, and moderate. He would have been an excellent choice for the McCain camp and i'm now very relieved he wasn't chosen.
Not that I don't think Obama/Biden could have beaten that ticket, I just think it would been a tough fight.
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Sat Sep-20-08 12:30 PM
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1. I don't think Bloomberg would have accepted. |
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Sat Sep-20-08 12:32 PM
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3. Yea, that's possible. Actually he would be a great endorsement right about now for Obama. |
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Sat Sep-20-08 12:40 PM
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13. Bloomberg is too smart to hitch his wagon to McCannot |
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He'll pop up again in 2012 betcha.
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Sat Sep-20-08 04:47 PM
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21. Yep, Bloomberg is no fool. |
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He'd never go down with the S.S. McCain.
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Sat Sep-20-08 07:15 PM
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Never woulda worked. The right would have revolted, as Bloomberg's liberal stances on social issues (most notably abortion, gay marriage and gun control) would have been anathema to the base.
Bloomberg also is not well-known outside of NYC...and there's no way McCain could carry NYC, even if he put the corpse of Mickey Mantle on the ticket.
Bloomberg also would not have helped in rural areas.
McCain-Bloomberg woulda been a losing ticket.
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Sat Sep-20-08 12:32 PM
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2. I think a moderate, older woman would have been problematic too |
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Sat Sep-20-08 12:34 PM
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4. You mean like Olympia Snowe? |
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She would have been a far better choice.
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Sat Sep-20-08 12:34 PM
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5. Probably more like Kay Bailey Hutchison. |
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Sat Sep-20-08 12:35 PM
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9. Kay Bailey Hutchison scared me more than anyone. |
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I really feared those rumors were true and with her on the ticket, I think Obama would have lost.
Yikes.
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Sat Sep-20-08 12:35 PM
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I mentioned that when Palin was picked. |
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That if he really wanted a qualified woman candidate, he should have gone with Snowe.
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Sat Sep-20-08 04:46 PM
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20. She wouldn't be a bad choice. |
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Sat Sep-20-08 04:48 PM
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22. Agreed. He could have won with her, I'm sure. |
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Sat Sep-20-08 05:41 PM
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24. I'm glad he didn't select her for that reason, but |
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it makes me wonder what he was thinking. It's almost like he wanted a losing ticket, but I think that there are much more nefarious activities going on. They (the PNAC people) are planning to steal this election too, so they don't care how lame their candidates are just so long as they can be programmed to go along with their agenda and Mooselini has proved that she is nothing but a parrot that has been scripted.
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Sat Sep-20-08 05:46 PM
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25. exactly who I was scared of |
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Sat Sep-20-08 12:34 PM
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6. Isn't Bloomberg a little ... er ... "cosmopolitan"? |
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I mean, he doesn't even kill moose, does he?
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Sat Sep-20-08 12:35 PM
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8. Well, Guiliani was a front runner for the nomination, so I don't think that matters too much. |
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Sat Sep-20-08 12:35 PM
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7. Religious fundamentalists aka. McCain's base would never have allowed it, so it's a moot point. |
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They wanted one of their own, and they got her.
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Sat Sep-20-08 12:37 PM
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He still would have been a better choice than Palin. If McCain had grown a pair it could've happened |
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Sat Sep-20-08 01:22 PM
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16. If McCain had a pair, he would've chosen Lieberman or Ridge. |
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But he caved and had James Dobson choose his VP (and set Palin up to be the GOP favorite in 2012).
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Sat Sep-20-08 08:13 PM
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29. Huckabee would have been a better pick |
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He was the one I was worried about, because he is not personally repellant the way Palin is.
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Sat Sep-20-08 12:37 PM
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10. Bloomberg would have been too smart for him |
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hence clash of the talons...
:evilgrin:
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Sat Sep-20-08 12:38 PM
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11. I don't think that Bloomberg... |
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...would have been even remotely interested.
As far as Palin(comparison), I've had a HUGE grin on my face since the moment that McSame picker her. I especially love how the media is actually raising expectations for her in the VP debate and acting as though Joe Biden were a little lost helpless lamb in the big bad woods.
BTW, thank you for expressing your ideas. A well thought out post is always good to read.
PEACE!
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Sat Sep-20-08 08:39 PM
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30. I know..can you imagine the intelligence of someone like |
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Bloomberg being subjected to a lying stalker like mccain? Didn't Bloomberg change his affiliation to Independent?
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Sat Sep-20-08 12:39 PM
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12. right now, i am relieved he didnt chose ANYONE but who he did. lol. n/t |
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Sat Sep-20-08 12:41 PM
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14. Haha, true. Even Romney would have probably been a better choice at this point. |
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Sat Sep-20-08 01:09 PM
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15. Be quiet. Don't give McCain any ideas. |
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Sat Sep-20-08 01:23 PM
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17. Don't get too complacent... |
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THIS is going to be a tough fight.
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Sat Sep-20-08 01:24 PM
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18. No. Bloomberg stands for absolutely nothing. nt |
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Sat Sep-20-08 01:26 PM
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19. McCain is an empty front. Palin was chosen for him. Bloomberg isn't ownable like they. n/t |
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Sat Sep-20-08 05:05 PM
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23. No. McCain's a fucking idiot and there isn't a single human |
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being that could be on the ticket who could change that or help him.
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Sat Sep-20-08 06:00 PM
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26. I'm positively relieved that McCain chose Palin, of all his possible choices. |
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McCain/Bloomberg, McCain/Lieberman, McCain/Ridge, or even McCain/Giuliani would have all been much tougher tickets. Had McCain chosen a moderate running mate with socially liberal tendencies on issues like choice and gay rights, the GOP ticket would have had broader appeal among undecided independent voters and would have bolstered McCain's self-presentation as 'a different kind of Republican'; as it is, choosing the far-right, fundamentalist, anti-choice, anti-gay, and (compared to pretty much ANY OTHER potential VP he could have picked) abysmally unqualified Palin is just kowtowing to the GOP base; it's a choice that turns off independents and moderates, who might otherwise have been inclined to vote for McCain (and you don't win elections with just your base).
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Sat Sep-20-08 07:10 PM
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27. For whatever reason, McCain wasn't in charge of choosing a running mate. n/t |
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