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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:49 PM
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Obama Leadership on Economy - already spoken with Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Frank, Schumer, Hillary, Bill.
Edited on Sun Sep-21-08 05:51 PM by jefferson_dem
Obama Picks Up Phone on Economy

September 21, 2008 6:35 PM

ABC's Sunlen Miller reports: Since yesterday, Sen. Barack Obama has spoken on the phone with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Senate Banking Committee chairman Chris Dodd, Rep. Barney Frank, Sen. Chuck Schumer, Rep. Ralph Emmanuel, former President Bill Clinton and Sen. Hillary Clinton about the economic situation and the plan for dealing with it.

Spokesperson Linda Douglass says that the conversations were about devising a "quick, bipartisan solution" to the economic crisis and they touched on the principles that Obama laid out in a speech in Charlotte, N.C., today.

"As of now, the Bush administration has only offered a concept with a staggering price tag, not a plan," Obama said. "Even if the U.S. Treasury recovers some or most of its investment over time, this initial outlay of up to $700 billion is sobering. And in return for their support, the American people must be assured that the deal reflects the basic principles of transparency, and fairness, and reform. We can’t allow this to happen again. They have run this government, they have run this economy into the ground. We’ve got to make sure that we lift if back up, but we’ve got to have some rules in place to make sure it doesn’t happen again."

Obama set out seven principles (several of which he has regularly mentioned on the campaign trail) for what he would like to see included in the government's bailout plan.

<SNIP>

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/obama-picks-up.html
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progressive_realist Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:51 PM
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1. K&R. n/t
:kick:
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:53 PM
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2. Awesome, I look forward to hearing his proposal. I feel it will be a good one.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:45 PM
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9. Here you go...
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 08:26 PM
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15. I'm talking about his plan to fix the economy. The bailout situation, and all that stuff.
He hasn't released one yet. They're still working on it, not just throwing one out there like McCain.
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LBJDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:55 PM
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3. Bipartisan
Edited on Sun Sep-21-08 05:57 PM by LBJDemocrat
He can take his "bipartisan solution" and shove it.

Edit: To clarify: Obama supports the bailout. Saying, "I'll make sure it doesn't happen again," while voting to mitigate the punishment of the banks by shifting the burden onto the worker - that doesn't cut it. When the parties agree on something, it's always on something that hurts the average American, like NAFTA, normalizing trade with China, and the Iraq War Resolution.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:03 PM
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5. What bailout do you think he supports?
Did you see/hear his speech today or the statement he released on guiding principles of any solution? If you clicked on the full article at ABC you would find them. Or link here -- http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/amandascott/gGg9zm

"Bipartisanship" is most often necessary to achieve any solution at all. And the appearance (at least) of such an approach is politically helpful as well. This is a campaign season, you know?
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LBJDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:06 PM
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6. Correct me if I'm wrong
But he seems to support the bailout, with the vague condition that "regulations" are put in place. The banks finance both parties, so I'm naturally skeptical.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:11 PM
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7. I appreciate the heavy dose of cynicism.
Edited on Sun Sep-21-08 06:12 PM by jefferson_dem
He has not taken a position on the bailout beyond laying out guiding principles that are critical to any solution.

The era of greed and irresponsibility on Wall Street and in Washington has led to a financial crisis as profound as any we have faced since the Great Depression.

But regardless of how we got here, the circumstances we face require decisive action because the jobs, savings, and economic security of millions of Americans are now at risk.

We must work quickly in a bipartisan fashion to resolve this crisis and restore our financial sector so capital is flowing again and we can avert an even broader economic catastrophe. We also should recognize that economic recovery requires that we act, not just to address the crisis on Wall Street, but also the crisis on Main Street and around kitchen tables across America.

But thus far, the Administration has only offered a concept with a staggering price tag, not a plan.

Even if the Treasury recovers some or most of its investment over time, this initial outlay of up to $700 billion is sobering. And in return for their support, the American people must be assured that the deal reflects some basic principles.

• No blank check. If we grant the Treasury broad authority to address the immediate crisis, we must insist on independent accountability and oversight. Given the breach of trust we have seen and the magnitude of the taxpayer money involved, there can be no blank check.

• Rescue requires mutual responsibility. As taxpayers are asked to take extraordinary steps to protect our financial system, it is only appropriate to expect those institutions that benefit to help protect American homeowners and the American economy. We cannot underwrite continued irresponsibility, where CEOs cash in and our regulators look the other way. We cannot abet and reward the unconscionable practices that triggered this crisis. We have to end them.

• Taxpayers should be protected. This should not be a handout to Wall Street. It should be structured in a way that maximizes the ability of taxpayers to recoup their investment. Going forward, we need to make sure that the institutions that benefit from financial insurance also bear the cost of that insurance.

• Help homeowners stay in their homes. This crisis started with homeowners and they bear the brunt of the nearly unprecedented collapse in housing prices. We cannot have a plan for Wall Street banks that does not help homeowners stay in their homes and help distressed communities.

• A global response. As I said on Friday, this is a global financial crisis and it requires a global solution. The United States must lead, but we must also insist that other nations, who have a huge stake in the outcome, join us in helping to secure the financial markets.

• Main Street, not just Wall Street. The American people need to know that we feel as great a sense of urgency about the emergency on Main Street as we do the emergency on Wall Street. That is why I call on Senator McCain, President Bush, Republicans and Democrats to join me in supporting an emergency economic plan for working families – a plan that would help folks cope with rising gas and food prices, save one million jobs through rebuilding our schools and roads, help states and cities avoid painful budget cuts and tax increases, help homeowners stay in their homes, and provide retooling assistance to help ensure that the fuel-efficient cars of the future are built in America.

• Build a regulatory structure for the 21st Century. While there is not time in a week to remake our regulatory structure to prevent abuses in the future, we should commit ourselves to the kind of reforms I have been advocating for several years. We need new rules of the road for the 21st Century economy, together with the means and willingness to enforce them.

The bottom line is that we must change the economic policies that led us down this dangerous path in the first place. For the last eight years, we’ve had an “on your own-anything goes” philosophy in Washington and on Wall Street that lavished tax cuts on the wealthy and big corporations; that viewed even common-sense regulation and oversight as unwise and unnecessary; and that shredded consumer protections and loosened the rules of the road. Ordinary Americans are now paying the price. The events of this week have rendered a final verdict on that failed philosophy, and it is a philosophy I will end as President of the United States,” said Senator Barack Obama.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/amandascott/gGg9zm
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 08:31 PM
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16. Lots of wonderful words. Where's the jail time?
Not fucking good enough. Not by a long shot.

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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 08:46 PM
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21. WTF?? Jail time? Hello, but I don't recall Hoover going to jail.
What happened was FDR came in, and saved our nation. Oh, and he campaigned on balancing the budget. The fact is, our new President will be hit with unprecedented problems and will have to improvise. So we need a cool head and a fine mind: Barack Obama.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 08:52 PM
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22. And what happened? Those criminals repeated their crimes.
Again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again

to the point where we're now talking about giving them, or their proteges, nearly a trillion bucks for destroying the system.

Sure, let the criminals walk. It does so much good for the future!

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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:43 PM
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25. Hello, those people are DEAD.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 08:43 PM
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19. LBJDemocrat -- the Democrats are going to support the bailout
but are going to tweak it with their ideas:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/business/22talkshow.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin

Read the whole article. It's depressing. This part was very ominous:

The legislators who had been briefed Thursday about the crisis were reluctant on Sunday to describe in detail what many said was the breathtakingly grim picture sketched for them.

But Mr. Frank, a Massachusetts Democrat, said on Sunday that legislators had been told that “we were reaching the point where people wouldn’t be able to get auto loans or home loans.” He foresaw “a very substantial reduction in economic activity.”


I'm madder than hell, too. But ..... the credit markets are about to collapse. Everything is in free fall. There isn't a choice. Yes, tweaking around the edges, but there is no choice.

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 08:53 PM
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23. Yeah, and al Qaeda's in your backyard, coming to kill you.
I can't believe, after their DECADES of lies, that people still fall for their fearmongering.

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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:45 PM
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26. Yeah, I'm the idiot along with Barney Frank, who if I recall
has never nor will he ever fall for the Bush Administration.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:00 PM
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4. Reid, Dodd, Frank, Schumer, Hillary, Bill, Emmanuel
Reminds me of an old movie called The Magnificent 7.

That's quite a group he's talking to and a lot of years of economic experience combined, if you add them all up. BTW, speaking of Chuck Schumer, I think he has been doing a superb job whenever he's called upon to speak on behalf of Obama and Biden. He says a lot of good stuff.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:15 PM
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8. I'm taking bets on how long before McCain copies Obama's
7 points.

I'm betting before Wednesday. Any takers?
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:48 PM
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10. I love that he hopped on the phone with these people. Great to hear. nt
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:52 PM
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11. I just heard on CNN that Obama has offered no solutions
but Mccain has offered solutions. I could not believe my ears. The Republican economic advisor was being a douche and when the Obama economic advisor came out the reporter was hostile asking him what is the plan? why doesn't Obama have a plan. Didn't even let him finish his points and I thought he was basically ineffectual. It was rididculous.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 08:43 PM
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20. mccain's solution is fire
Chris Cox. According to George Will .."mccain is substituting vehemence for coherence".
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:59 PM
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12. That's my guy! K/R. This man is truly brilliant.
:kick:
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Abugface Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:12 PM
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13. Well big deal ...
Edited on Sun Sep-21-08 07:14 PM by Abugface
McCain has met with Gramm, Fiorina, Bush, Cheney, Paulson, Bernake and Ayn Rand's Rotting Corpse.

The (fill in the blank) ____________________ Seven, and sacrificed seven pigs with lipstick at the High Alter of the Invisible Hand of the Market.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 08:37 PM
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17. Precisely my point.
And thanks tons for the expressions of concern.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:13 PM
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14. K&R.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 08:41 PM
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18. Democrats getting together for an emergency
fix to bring the country back from the precipice of impending bushvilles..the 21st Century Hoovervilles.
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:08 PM
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24. The bail-out must offer some relief for Main Street otherwise we lose
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