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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:12 PM
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Democrats are being snookered by Paulson on the bailout
Edited on Sun Sep-21-08 07:14 PM by IndianaGreen
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Billions for Bailouts! Who Pays? -- 09/19/2008

By Senator Bernie Sanders


While the middle class collapses, the richest people in this country have made out like bandits and have not had it so good since the 1920s. The top 0.1 percent now earn more money than the bottom 50 percent of Americans, and the top 1 percent own more wealth than the bottom 90 percent. The wealthiest 400 people in our country saw their wealth increase by $670 billion while Bush has been president. In the midst of all of this, Bush lowered taxes on the very rich so that they are paying lower income tax rates than teachers, police officers or nurses.

Now, having mismanaged the economy for eight years as well as having lied about our situation by continually insisting, “The fundamentals of our economy are strong,” the Bush administration, six weeks before an election, wants the middle class of this country to spend many hundreds of billions on a bailout. The wealthiest people, who have benefited from Bush’s policies and are in the best position to pay, are being asked for no sacrifice at all. This is absurd. This is the most extreme example that I can recall of socialism for the rich and free enterprise for the poor.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/news/record.cfm?id=303313

The Middle Class Must Not Be Forced to Bail Out Wall Street Greed

-- 09/21/2008


For years, as a member of the House Banking Committee and now as a member of the Senate Budget Committee, I have heard the Bush Administration tell us how “robust” our economy was and how strong the “fundamentals” were. That was until a few days ago. Now, we are being told that if Congress does not act immediately and approve the $700 billion Wall Street bailout proposal these “free marketers” have just written up, there will be an unprecedented economic meltdown in the United States and an unraveling of the global economy.

This proposal as presented is an unacceptable attempt to force middle income families (and our children) to pick up the cost of fixing the horrendous economic mess that is the product of the Bush Administration's deregulatory fever and Wall Street's insatiable greed. If the potential danger to our economy was not so dire, this blatant effort to essentially transfer $700 billion up the income ladder to those at the top would be laughable.

Let us be clear. If the economy is on the edge of collapse we need to act. But rescuing the economy does not mean we have to just give away $700 billion of taxpayer money to the banks. (In truth, it could be much more than $700 billion. The bill only says the government is limited to having $700 billion outstanding at any time. By selling the mortgage backed assets it acquires -- even at staggering losses -- the government will be able to buy even more resulting is a virtually limitless financial exposure on the part of taxpayers.) Any proposal must protect middle income and working families from bearing the burden of this bailout.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/news/record.cfm?id=303317


Sanders is right on target, especially the part about taxpayers getting an equity stake in the investment firms they’re being asked to bail out. If the problem is defined as non-liquidity, there are at least 3 ways to inject liquidity into these firms, only 2 of which are being considered during this crisis, both of which let the private sector continue in control of the firms. The first way is to loan funds – this is being done with the $85 Billion loan to AIG. The second way is to buy “assets” from the firms – this is the $700 Billion purchase of bad loans Treasury Secretary Paulson (former head of Goldman Sachs – 1 of only 2 remaining large independent American investment firms) from the firms. The third, is to inject equity into the firms, i.e., to buy a stake, almost certainly controlling, in these firms. The government can own them, and hire out-of-work private sector investment gurus to work in them. After all, it will be the same investment guys working out the problem under the Paulson private-sector favored plan, so why not have these guys working for the taxpayer and the taxpayer getting the profits. Paulson’s proposal is a desperate attempt to prevent a real crisis which would result in a wide-spread uprising of the masses as they realized that the private sector had failed them, had lost their retirement annuities, investments, etc., and which would result in fundamental, pro-government, change in America.

Also, any salesman knows that one tactic to use on a potential mark (i.e. customer), is to create a “sense of urgency” in the mind of the mark that he must buy immediately. Isn’t that what Paulson is doing with his proposal – gotta adopt my plan immediately, this weekend, no time to think about it. Haven’t we heard all of this before, e.g., in the run-up to the Iraq war (Sadam has WMD – we’ve got to act now before the mushroom clouds start appearing over Podunkville America), e.g., in the rush to pass the Patriot Act in the middle of the night immediately after 911 to prevent another attack, and, and this may be a bit obscure, in the creation of the Federal Reserve System by private bankers back in December 1912 (?) when the legislation was rushed thru both houses of Congress in the early AM hours of December 22, and signed into law the next day? I can see why smart people often throw their lot in with the wealthy, not because the rich have smarter people than the poor or a higher moral ground, but because the rich have more smart people than the poor, and the poor are therefore more easily manipulated to act against their own interests. I believe that what’s happening now under the guise of “bi-partisanship”, is simply another snookering of the Democrats. I’m tempted to say “Unbelievable”, but, sadly, it’s all too “Believable”.


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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:19 PM
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1. THIS I can accept. We the people own and reap the profits...
I still say that those responsible need to spend the rest of their lives in prison though. Make an example of them.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:54 PM
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4. We are being lied to, according to Josh Marshall
Put on the Brakes
09.20.08 -- 9:47PM By Josh Marshall


As noted in the previous post, I'm quite convinced that some drastic action needs to be taken to avoid a cascading and debilitating series of crises. But the more I look at this plan, the more wrongheaded it seems. But if I'm understanding this deal, the taxpayers are going to pony up close to a trillion dollars to take bad debts off the hands of financial institutions who were foolish enough to make the deals in the first place. And in exchange, I think the tax payers get nothing? Sebastian Mallaby makes the good point that this is radically different than the S&L Crisis RTC which was liquidating the assets of thrifts that had already gone belly up -- paid the ultimate price, as it were. And as the insurer on the accounts, the government inherited the assets anyway. It was just a matter of selling them off. But here the point is to take these bad debts off these companies' hands so they can go back to being profitable businesses. This is moral hazard on steroids if I'm understanding this right.

Also, according to the Journal, finance industry lobbyists are already giving orders to Republican hill staffers not to allow any meaningful reforms or protections for taxpayers. So, just the money. No strings attached.

House Republican staffers met with roughly 15 lobbyists Friday afternoon, whose message to lawmakers was clear: Don't load the legislation up with provisions not directly related to the crisis, or regulatory measures the industry has long opposed.

"We're opposed to adding provisions that will affect (or) undermine the deal substantively," said Scott Talbott, senior vice president of government affairs at the Financial Services Roundtable, whose members include the nation's largest banks, securities firms and insurers.

A deal killer for the group: a proposal that would grant bankruptcy judges new powers to lower the principal, interest rate or both on a mortgage as part of a bankruptcy proceeding.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/218444.php
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ElboRuum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 08:39 PM
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8. Assume...
Assume that those who need to eat this won't eat.

Assume that those who have profited will profit.

Assume that the accountants will wither in the face of accountability.

Assuming all of that...

Fuck it. This is the beginning of change.
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Rocky2007 Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 11:16 PM
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9. Another point of view~~worth a read
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:23 PM
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2. No, they can see the obvious as easily as you or I can.
They're afraid that speaking out will affect their chances in November(see FISA, surge, etc.), and many rank and file Democrats agree with them. Don't expect too much resistance to the Paulson putsch from Congressional Democrats.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:26 PM
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3. Except that it will be our children and their children that will bear the brunt of the burden
As for ourselves, we can kiss every Democratic promise goodbye for we won't have the money to do anything but to pay the bankers.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:56 PM
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5. Digby has already told us how it will likely go, folks....
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 08:09 PM
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6. willing dupes-NOT fooled
after all this time? H3ll no! They are going along to get along I watched as they claimed Dems couldn't pass something without 60 votes & Then the right passed a bill with LESS than 60. Redisticting perhaps, because I KNOW that's what the mal-adroit was doing at the state level, 1st noticed this in Texas & suspected something was fishy when reports were saying how unusual it was to redistrict, once a decade then a few in quack succession(in honor of lame duck Pres):P
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 08:35 PM
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7. Corporate accountability is off the table.
Let's focus on the issues people!

:sarcasm:
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