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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 06:33 AM
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sp Charging Rape Victims Story On CNN
Hmmm. . .
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 06:34 AM
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1. They're Trying To Say She Didn't Know
Dem from Alaska on saying that's bullshit. Hmmm, not looking goog for p*
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 06:42 AM
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4. She was mayor of a town of 6000
and didn't know what was going on? That proves she's totally clueless no matter what the spin.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 06:43 AM
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5. They Brought That Out
And the Dem from Alaska was good.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:03 AM
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12. they're trying to claim that more people knew her daughter was preggers
than knew that the rape kits were being charged to the victim?
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 06:50 AM
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6. CNN is saying she didn't know, or some GOP squawking head? nt
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 06:51 AM
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7. CNN Was Basically Saying A Squawking Head Said It, And
that it sounded pretty fishy. I was surprised, to say the least.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 06:59 AM
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9. Thanks for the clarification, Dinger.
I'm pleasantly surprised to read that CNN is covering the story! :bounce: That they're questioning the official "she didn't know" line of defense is icing on the cake!
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 06:36 AM
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2. Great!
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 06:38 AM by mucifer
What took them so long?
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 06:59 AM
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10. It's only been three weeks....
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 06:39 AM
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3. \o/
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medicswife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 06:54 AM
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8. Hmmmm.........this one is going to be awfully hard to spin
their way out of. I wonder if it will gain steam? I sure hope so.

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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:10 AM
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18. Impossible to spin...
Since the governor of Alaska at that time had to pass a state law for the sole purpose of stopping Wallisa from charging rape victims for rape kits (Wallisa was the only town doing it in the whole state) at some point Palin DID know and obviously fought against it... otherwise no need for the state law.

No spin crying ignorance will fly on this. If she truly didn't know, when she found out (and at some point obviously she would have had to have found out) the only acceptable response would have been "Oh how terrible! I'll stop this barbaric policy in my town immediately!" But obviously that was not what she did since the governor had to step in and stop the practice by passing the state law. Either she knew about it all along and fought against adding the rape kits to the budget, which required the state law to stop her, OR at some point she found out about it and fought against adding the rape kits to the budget, which required the state law to stop her. She's nailed on this one.

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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:02 AM
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11. I saw it too. Spin, Spin Spin. No denial but claiming ignorance and
including a few comparisons to other towns in the United States.

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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:31 AM
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13. Other tows are not trying to Pass of an imitation barbie as a VP feminist VP Candidate
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:42 AM
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14. I hope they go into some detail with this
People need to realize the horrors that can continue as a result of this kind of screwball hatefulness..

The Rape victim may also end up battling a Rapist IN COURT over Child Support, VISITATION.. what a nightmare that could be.. the Rapist may literally NEVER leave that person's LIFE for the whole of their life..

So according to Palin, RAPISTS have RIGHTS TOO..

Sickening.

Why does Palin HATE WOMEN?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:46 AM
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16. I started a thread here yesterday, asking why does Sarah Palin HATE rape victims?
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mikekohr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:46 AM
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15. One Way To Make Rape Statistics Fall Is To Revictimize the Rape Victim a Second Time
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 08:00 AM by mikekohr
Charging the victim for part of the investigation of the crime would accomplish this.

following is some statistics on rape and incest in the land of the midnight bribe:


Murkowski (R) AK said funding is needed for every aspect of sexual assault, including initial investigation, prosecution and incarceration. She is seeking an appropriation in the upcoming budget, she said.
The senator gave an alarming list of the statistics that describe Alaska's "epidemic" of sex crimes: One out of five adults will be a victim of forcible rape in their lifetime, or nearly 44,000 adults; an adult Alaska woman is raped every 18 minutes; more adult women have been raped than wear glasses or contacts.
"Our statistics are almost unimaginable, given our population," she said.
http://www.adn.com/209/story/190180.html

• 80-90% of rapes against women (except for American Indian women) are committed by someone of the same racial background as the victim. (US Dept. of Justice 1994)
• American Indian victims of rape reported the offender as either white or black in 90% of reports. (Department of Justice 1997)
http://www2.ucsc.edu/rape-prevention/statistics.html (the breakdown of rape perps against Native Women is 12% Black, 78% White)

Only Alaska (20.9% of its women raped versus 20.6% in Utah compared to 13.4% of all women nationally) has a higher rate in the United States. The estimates are said to be conservative because they do not include the cases of women who have experienced attempted rape; rapes where the women were unconscious or impaired by drugs or alcohol; or statutory rape where there was no force. (Salt Lake Tribune, 7/12/03)
http://www.mazeministry.com/mormonism/statistics/rape.h ...

Alaska has the highest incidence of rape and incest in the nation. Alaskan Senator Barbara Murkowski ® AK said, “"Our statistics are almost unimaginable… more adult women have been raped than wear glasses or contacts.” Yet as mayor, Palin’s administration charged victims of rape and incest for their own rape kits, ($230.00) an action so outrageous that it was cited as the reason that the Alaskan State legislature passed a law forbidding the practice.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/mikekohr


mike kohr

p.s. I'm from a small, rural community, in Illinois. Rape and incest are not values we practice or appreciate, but in the rare case these abominations do occur we DO NOT charge the victim for the rape test. Never did. Never will. Never even considered it.

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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:57 AM
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17. Good facts in this post. nt
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