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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:30 AM
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I think Obama has a chance now to open up a huge lead. All he has to do is make a simple connection
between the Iraq War and the economic meltdown on Wall St. I can foresee him pounding this message home in the upcoming debates.

Barack has been staunchly anti-Iraq War and McCain staunchly pro-Iraq War. Everyone knows that. The voters, Republican and Democrat alike, are all pissed about the same thing for once....the taxpayer's bailout of Wall Street.

If Obama can tie the Iraq War to the bailout on Wall Street and put it in laymans terms, I think he'd win over the majority of undecided voters out there plus a slew of disgruntled Republicans. Even if he supports the bailout himself to some degree, he can still put much of the blame for this mess on the Iraq War and also on the greed of big corporations and the failed policies of Bush of course. Whatever he does, it's time to remind people that the most important difference between he and McCain is their position on the Iraq War, something the Republicans and the media want everyone to forget. It's not just about the economy, it's about the war, and we can't let them forget it.
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iiibbb Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:32 AM
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1. The tie is that because we've been dumping money there... we don't have flexibility here.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:37 AM
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2. I think the connection is that the republicans are responsible for both
not necessarily that one caused the other, but that both are products of the ideology that the republicans are slaves to.

I think Obama can convince people that the republicans are incapable of being pragmatic, and that only the pragmatic democrats can get us out of these messes the right wingers have got us into.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:39 AM
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3. Nope, all he has to say is "Let these companies die" and all the free market nutters will vote O.
The brokers at my company are pissed off by the bailouts and dislike the 700 billion robbery even more. And these guys are die-hard Republicans.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:41 AM
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5. He can't because he already supported the bailout to some degree. He just has to point to the war &
tie it all together. McCain will be left standing by himself because he's not about to change his position on the war.
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ColonelTom Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:41 AM
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4. Also a tie between those two things and emboldening enemies.
- North Korea is rattling its saber again today, threatening to restart its nuclear program.
- Russia acted boldly in the Georgia situation without regard to the United States' opposition.
- Iran is talking about the destruction of Israel again.

Why? They know we're not in a position to do a damn thing about it.



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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:43 AM
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6. Excellent point, as are the ideas from the above posters.
You expanded on it in a way I didn't think of.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:50 AM
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7. The connection is GREED, but one didn't cause the other.
They were both doomed to failure.
The connection can be made and you're right, it should be made.

Republicans brought us both failures, and the voting record is there to prove it.
Deregulation, lack of oversight, lies about WMD, etc. etc., this was all them.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:51 AM
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8. well said!
and I agree. It's sad to think of the lives lost and money wasted on this stupid, illegal war.:cry:
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