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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:07 AM
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Why are we surprised that NC is close? It *IS* winnable...


John Edwards won in NC. That shows me there is a LOT of economic populists there. And those people will vote for Obama.


Also... NC's demographics have changed in recent years. Lots of northerners relocating there (similar to Virginia), especially in the Research Triangle.


Also... a sizeable minority population, that will likely have a huge jump in turnout.


NC is seriously *IN PLAY* and we should make a play for it.... even if we can't pull it off, forcing McCain to spend time and money there can help in other areas.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:24 AM
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1. I think Obama won the NC primary. Wasn't Edward out by that point?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/07/us/politics/06cnd-campaign.html?hp

I liked Edward's populism, to bad he lied to all of us. That said I think the Democratic Party has a great chance at winning NC, and deliver a death blow to the GOP.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:25 AM
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2. I think OP means that Edwards won a Senate seat there back in the day.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:26 AM
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6. Oh OK. That makes more sense.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:26 AM
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4. I mean that John Edwards won the senate race there in 1998..... a statewide race

If John Edwards can win there in 1998, than ANY populist can win there in the current economic environment.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:27 AM
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8. Yeah sorry about that didn't even think about his senate race.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:26 AM
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3. I think if we are going to flip one southern state, it will be that one.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:26 AM
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5. We're surprised because NC is pretty reliably red--so to have it in play
gives us yet another avenue to victory.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:27 AM
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7. But look at how their demographics have changed in recent years...

NC is trending blue.... trending HARD toward blue.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:30 AM
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9. Well, we expected Virginia to be up for grabs this year, due to Tim Kaine
and Mark Warner's popularity--as well as Obama's crushing primary win.

But I have to admit I didn't see NC flipping blue or even trending blue. Maybe this is a bellwether for SC as well...?
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:31 AM
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10. Kay Hagan is up by 6 points over Sen. Elizabeth Dole. (link)
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