Obama opens up 8 point lead in Minnesota.

[Drunken Irishman]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/minnesota/election_2008_minnesota_presidential_election

A lot of people were concerned about this state...

[KitchenWitch]

1. That makes me smile!

[graywarrior]

2. Once he states pulling ahead in a few states, it will become contagious

I hope he kicks McCain's ass.

[Iris]

24. from the looks of the threads in GDP - you are right, graywarrior!

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[featherman]

3. MN has never worried me. Disappointed in ND however.

[KitchenWitch]

5. I have been disappointed in ND for years....

[southpaw]

4. I think Obama is owning the post-convention campaign

Keep it up, Barack!

[TomClash]

6. Big Deal

He should have a 15 point lead in MN.

[alcibiades_mystery]

13. He should have a 40% lead nationally

blah blah fucking blah.

[TomClash]

17. No but he should be up by 8-10% nationally

and if he doesn't win Minnesota going away, he doesn't win.

I'll take an 8 point lead, but I'd expect him to be up by more. It's a reflection on the country, not him. I like the guy.

[alcibiades_mystery]

20. Why? On what basis? I'm interested in hearing an analysis to that effect

The polls have him up between 4% and 9% nationally. Why is that below what should be expected?

[TomClash]

21. 3 reasons

1. McCain is a poor candidate and Barack is a good candidate.

2. The economy is shit and getting worse - with or without the global financial crisis - and the incumbent party is responsible.

3. The War is still unpopular - surge or no surge - and it's expensive. He opposed the war.

[alcibiades_mystery]

23. Meh

1. I'm not convinced. McCain is a poor candidate, perhaps, but the right has been densely organized and extremely effective in getting their partisans out for forty years. They're also very good at pushing on middle of the road issues. I see no reason why ANY stuffed suit with an R behind his/her name would be 10% back.

2. The 1968 election was close in the popular vote after the most disastrous party performance probably ever seen. incumbent party does not have the same dynamics as incumbent candidate. Also, see #1.

3. The war is increasingly unimportant in people's minds as the death toll has remained well below the outrage threshold for many months. It's a wash, at best.

Once again, I think these "Obama should have a 12% point lead" posts are just weird, unsupportable nonsense. They're mostly used to poo-poo any lead Obama DOES have, and usually by people who shake their fist at the sky when he DOESN'T have a lead. Some people can't see good news when it's sitting in front of them. But don't worry. I think the so-called "Bradley effect" is also anachronistic bullshit.

[TomClash]

26. We disagree

I think comparing 1968 to today is "unsupportable nonsense." It wasn't an election about economics, for starters.

The reason the war is less important is that the poor economic health of the country has captured the moment. Still, most people oppose it - McCain would be very lucky if it's a wash.

As Barack says, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. McCain is a pig as a candidate - that's why they selected Palin.

I'm not shaking my fist at anything - I just think by all rights his lead should be bigger than it is. I've been through too many elections to be celebrating small leads in the polls.

[CoffeeCat]

7. McCain got a bounce out of MN...

...because his Convention was in that state. Now that the spark has been extinguished--by their
own stupidity and nasty campaigning--the McCain numbers come back to reality.

Obama will easily take MN.

[dflprincess]

10. Don't take Minnesota for granted.

And it pains me to say that.

Last week the Minnesota Poll, which is often thought to lean a bit toward DFLers, had McCain and Obama tied at 45% each and the results of elections here have been affected by third parties (in particular, the last 3 elections for governor, but Nader did take 5% of the vote in 2000).

McCain has been running ads hear constantly, I haven't seen any Obama ads.

[jrockford]

11. Whenever I try to get a sign, they are always out!

Yet, at least where I travel, I don't really see too many Obama signs. That said, I don't see a lot of McCain ones either. I work downtown Minneapolis and live about 20 minutes north. We have one McCain sign in our neighbourhood and it's a private neighbourhood on the lake. 8 years ago, there were Bush signs all over this particular area. Just one McCain sign...

[melody]

14. You honestly think we'll lose Minnesota? n/t

[dflprincess]

15. It's not impossible

I think Minnesota is apt to blue, but it's not impossible that it could go the other way. I am concerned with how much advertising McCain is doing here while Obama is not doing much, if any. It is true that Obama lawn signs are hard to come by, but I did hear from one person who knows more than I, that they think the Obama campaign underestimated how big a deal lawn signs are here and just didn't send enough - though there have been reports that that situation is changing.

It was pretty close that last 2 presidential elections and in a close race third party voters could cause us problems. Pray for good weather in Minnesota on November 4 as good weather tends to favor the DFL turnout.

[melody]

16. Looking at all the aspects, I can't see a way we'll lose it

Not that we won't have to work for it ... we have to work for everything. lol

[jrockford]

25. I tried getting one last week

...and they were out at ALL of the offices in MN. But they said they were getting some in on Saturday in St. Paul to be distributed later to the other offices, not sure whether they still have any - I've not had a chance to get to the nearest office. When I was at the State Fair, they were completely out of signs then too.

Still, I think it's nice that you don't see too many McCain signs. I see one very large one on 394W on a fence. And then there's one in my neighbourhood, which like I said before, was littered with "W" signs last election. I just don't think the support is there. The only McCain sign in this area is right next door. He has a NOBama sign as well. His SUV is adorned with flags and Coleman stickers. And he still has mini flags all over the place from 4th of July.

Anyway, can't wait to get my Obama sign.

[budkin]

8. That's what I'm talking about!

[DarthDem]

9. Add +3

For ScottyRazz Thumb-On-Scale Effect.

[grantcart]

12. Franken/Coleman tied can you edit your OP to include that too -- tks

[AtomicKitten]

18. To the Greatest Page!!!

[notsoaveragejoe]

19. Thats super!

[yellerpup]

22. Yay! Yay! Yay!

And to that I add... :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: K&R! :dem:

[saltpoint]

27. Good numbers for Obama.

I hope it is a stong blue tide that puts Al Franken in the Senate and swamps Norm Coleman.