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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:41 PM
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If the Bradley Effect is true, what margin is safe for Obama?
How do people feel about this and if the Bradley Effect is true, what margin do Du'ers thing Obama has to have on the eve of Nov 4?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:42 PM
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1. 3% for The Bradley Effect, plus an additional 5% for Election Fraud and Voter Suppression. n/t
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 01:03 PM
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7. 538 suggests it's a myth, but there may be a REVERSE Bradley effect in the South.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:46 PM
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2. Please Read This...
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:47 PM
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3. I don't think that's a problem
If anything, I think we could see a reverse, there could be a lot of people voting for Obama, but not willing to admit that they are and tell the pollsters something else.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:55 PM
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4. Oh, how I wish that were true, but I don't....
I think it is going to be the exact opposite, but I would like nothing better than to sit down and watch the election returns and learn I was completely wrong.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:58 PM
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5. Same here
Frankly, I'm at the point where I would just love to be proven wrong about my feelings. I fear this country is about to find out just how racist it still is.
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FloridaGrl Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 01:08 PM
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9. I agree
I think people are going to vote based on the economic conditions this year.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:59 PM
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6. BULLSHIT! Where was "The Bradley Effect" in Iowa? Thanks for your UNFOUNDED concern
:eyes:
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 01:05 PM
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8. I'll tell you where my "unfounded" concern is at...
When I talk to normally strong democrats who tell me that they are either not voting this year or that they simply will not vote for Obama. That is where my concern comes from. And they do exist because I have talked to a handful of these type of voters. And these are the people who are open about their feelings. Hopefully as Nov 4 comes closer and the more that is learned about McCain, and Obama, they will come to their senses and do the right thing. But there is something there.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 01:11 PM
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10. That's what's termed in Psychology, IMO, as "learned helplessness" and has NOTHING to do with
"The Bradley Effect." PM me for a full back-and-forth if you would like?
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elkston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 01:12 PM
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11. I'd say between 3% - 4%. So we need to be up by 5 points in all the important states. (eom)
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 01:18 PM
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12. Whatever effect there is is cancelled out
by the new registrations, young people, cell phones, that are underrepresented in the likely voter models.
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elkston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 01:19 PM
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13. That's what I am counting on. The "new" will overwhelm the "old" and we win (eom)
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