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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:21 PM
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Newsweek Slams Palin
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 02:27 PM by whereismyparty
When Atheists Attack
A noted provocateur rips Sarah Palin—and defends elitism.

Sam Harris
NEWSWEEK
From the magazine issue dated Sep 29, 2008

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...In her interview with Gibson, Palin managed to turn a joke about seeing Russia from her window into a straight-faced claim that Alaska's geographical proximity to Russia gave her some essential foreign-policy experience. Palin may be a perfectly wonderful person, a loving mother and a great American success story—but she is a beauty queen/sports reporter who stumbled into small-town politics, and who is now on the verge of stumbling into, or upon, world history.

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We have all now witnessed apparently sentient human beings, once provoked by a reporter's microphone, saying things like, "I'm voting for Sarah because she's a mom. She knows what it's like to be a mom." Such sentiments suggest an uncanny (and, one fears, especially American) detachment from the real problems of today. The next administration must immediately confront issues like nuclear proliferation, ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (and covert wars elsewhere), global climate change, a convulsing economy, Russian belligerence, the rise of China, emerging epidemics, Islamism on a hundred fronts, a defunct United Nations, the deterioration of American schools, failures of energy, infrastructure and Internet security … the list is long, and Sarah Palin does not seem competent even to rank these items in order of importance, much less address any one of them...

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...In speaking before her church about her son going to war in Iraq, Palin urged the congregation to pray "that our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God; that's what we have to make sure we are praying for, that there is a plan, and that plan is God's plan." When asked about these remarks in her interview with Gibson, Palin successfully dodged the issue of her religious beliefs by claiming that she had been merely echoing the words of Abraham Lincoln. The New York Times later dubbed her response "absurd." It was worse than absurd; it was a lie calculated to conceal the true character of her religious infatuations. Every detail that has emerged about Palin's life in Alaska suggests that she is as devout and literal-minded in her Christian dogmatism as any man or woman in the land. Given her long affiliation with the Assemblies of God church, Palin very likely believes that Biblical prophecy is an infallible guide to future events and that we are living in the "end times." Which is to say she very likely thinks that human history will soon unravel in a foreordained cataclysm of war and bad weather. Undoubtedly Palin believes that this will be a good thing—as all true Christians will be lifted bodily into the sky to make merry with Jesus, while all nonbelievers, Jews, Methodists and other rabble will be punished for eternity in a lake of fire. Like many Pentecostals, Palin may even imagine that she and her fellow parishioners enjoy the power of prophecy themselves. Otherwise, what could she have meant when declaring to her congregation that "God's going to tell you what is going on, and what is going to go on, and you guys are going to have that within you"?

You can learn something about a person by the company she keeps. In the churches where Palin has worshiped for decades, parishioners enjoy "baptism in the Holy Spirit," "miraculous healings" and "the gift of tongues." Invariably, they offer astonishingly irrational accounts of this behavior and of its significance for the entire cosmos. Palin's spiritual colleagues describe themselves as part of "the final generation," engaged in "spiritual warfare" to purge the earth of "demonic strongholds." Palin has spent her entire adult life immersed in this apocalyptic hysteria. Ask yourself: Is it a good idea to place the most powerful military on earth at her disposal? Do we actually want our leaders thinking about the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy when it comes time to say to the Iranians, or to the North Koreans, or to the Pakistanis, or to the Russians or to the Chinese: "All options remain on the table"?...

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...We have endured eight years of an administration that seemed touched by religious ideology. Bush's claim to Bob Woodward that he consulted a "higher Father" before going to war in Iraq got many of us sitting upright, before our attention wandered again to less ethereal signs of his incompetence. For all my concern about Bush's religious beliefs, and about his merely average grasp of terrestrial reality, I have never once thought that he was an over-the-brink, Rapture-ready extremist. Palin seems as though she might be the real McCoy. With the McCain team leading her around like a pet pony between now and Election Day, she can be expected to conceal her religious extremism until it is too late to do anything about it. Her supporters know that while she cannot afford to "talk the talk" between now and Nov. 4, if elected, she can be trusted to "walk the walk" until the Day of Judgment.

What is so unnerving about the candidacy of Sarah Palin is the degree to which she represents—and her supporters celebrate—the joyful marriage of confidence and ignorance. Watching her deny to Gibson that she had ever harbored the slightest doubt about her readiness to take command of the world's only superpower, one got the feeling that Palin would gladly assume any responsibility on earth:

"Governor Palin, are you ready at this moment to perform surgery on this child's brain?"

"Of course, Charlie. I have several boys of my own, and I'm an avid hunter."

"But governor, this is neurosurgery, and you have no training as a surgeon of any kind."

"That's just the point, Charlie. The American people want change in how we make medical decisions in this country. And when faced with a challenge, you cannot blink."

The prospects of a Palin administration are far more frightening, in fact, than those of a Palin Institute for Pediatric Neurosurgery...

SNIP

...I believe that with the nomination of Sarah Palin for the vice presidency, the silliness of our politics has finally put our nation at risk. The world is growing more complex—and dangerous—with each passing hour, and our position within it growing more precarious. Should she become president, Palin seems capable of enacting policies so detached from the common interests of humanity, and from empirical reality, as to unite the entire world against us. When asked why she is qualified to shoulder more responsibility than any person has held in human history, Palin cites her refusal to hesitate. "You can't blink," she told Gibson repeatedly, as though this were a primordial truth of wise governance. Let us hope that a President Palin would blink, again and again, while more thoughtful people decide the fate of civilization.

READ IT ALL (it's great!)
http://www.newsweek.com/id/160080/output/print
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:26 PM
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1. great stuff! -- K&r
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:26 PM
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2. Great read! Love Harris!
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:27 PM
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3. Palin is a complete moron . I just wish people would have questioned AWOL Bush's
qualification a little more as some are now doing of Palin. Neither of them, as governors, were the least bit qualified to the run the country. The same "party before country" repukes will vote for Palin/McCain proudly, just as they did for AWOL Bush in 2000 and 2004. They don't need any questions asked or answered. They just stick their fingers in their ears and go vote for their party.

they are traitors to our country.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:03 PM
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13. so is McCain for putting her on the ticket just for political gain.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:27 PM
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4. K&R - Great Read and thanks for posting
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tosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:29 PM
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5.  Kick & highly recommend!!
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:36 PM
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6. wow...just wow
I agree, read the entire piece. It's one of the best commentaries on the Palin selection I've read.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:38 PM
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7. Excellent article.
Bravo
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:39 PM
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8. Great article -- really smarmy headline
I'm guessing the headline writer is a Repug
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:11 PM
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14. I agree. The headline really stinks. n/t
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 03:23 PM
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9. "I'm voting for Sarah because she's a mom."
Cool! Then they can elect her to be in charge of the White House laundry and grocery list.

And she has the chutzpah to say Obama's leadership positions lacked actual responsibility. :eyes:

(Not belittling the role of housewives, being a "Mr. Mom" dad myself. But Vice President of the United States is a totally different universe, and I wouldn't dare dream of it, nor would any sane housewife or househusband.)
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 03:58 PM
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10. Kicking it!
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:42 PM
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11. This had lots of recs but lost them witht he new rating system
so kicking it anew.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:49 PM
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12. Kick!
:kick:
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:18 PM
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15. "even to rank these items in order of importance, much less address any one of them..."
:rofl:
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:20 PM
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16. Wow - can't wait to read the rest of that! Thanks for posting the excerpt.
Whenever I think the rePigliCons can't possibly get any sillier or less intelligent, someone like Talking Caribou Barbie comes along and drops my jaw all over again.
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Not Sure Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 10:38 PM
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22. Dontcha know, my Mom would love that banner!
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:25 PM
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17. I know a lot of moms--and even a couple of beauty contestants--who could do a better job than Bush.
It's not her resume that's at issue here. It's the disasterous policies she stands for. It's the record of corruption where she has been involved in politics that's the problem. I think you could almost randomly pull people off the street of Anytown, USA, and stick 'em in the White House and most of them would do better as president than Bush has.

Some amateur idiot would not screw the country up this badly. For the kinda messes we're in today, it takes a professional idiot.
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appleannie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:26 PM
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18. One does not have to be an Atheist to understand the truth of that article. She is dangerous.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:58 PM
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19. the joyful marriage of confidence and ignorance
That's Palin!

What a perfect description. Just perfect.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:12 PM
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20. Great read! I never expected to read something like this in Newsweek.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:51 PM
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21. "Governor Palin, are you ready at this moment to perform surgery on this child's brain?"
:rofl:
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volstork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 10:42 PM
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23. Great read!
Further exposure of the worthless idiot she is....
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:02 PM
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24. Money Quote:
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 11:12 PM by Number23
"When it comes to politics, there is a mad love of mediocrity in this country."

TRUE.THAT.

ETA: ANOTHER money quote:

"There is simply no other walk of life in which extraordinary talent and rigorous training are denigrated. We want elite pilots to fly our planes, elite troops to undertake our most critical missions, elite athletes to represent us in competition and elite scientists to devote the most productive years of their lives to curing our diseases. And yet, when it comes time to vest people with even greater responsibilities, we consider it a virtue to shun any and all standards of excellence. When it comes to choosing the people whose thoughts and actions will decide the fates of millions, then we suddenly want someone just like us, someone fit to have a beer with, someone down-to-earth—in fact, almost anyone, provided that he or she doesn't seem too intelligent or well educated."

Whew! Man, that's good stuff.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:05 PM
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25. Definite Must Read
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:05 PM
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26. Palin was chosen for the same reason as Bush, and McCain...
Each was chosen for their -malleability.
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:18 PM
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27. This is a FABULOUS article!!!!
thank you very much!
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:23 PM
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28. I liked this:
The problem, as far as our political process is concerned, is that half the electorate revels in Palin's lack of intellectual qualifications. When it comes to politics, there is a mad love of mediocrity in this country. "They think they're better than you!" is the refrain that (highly competent and cynical) Republican strategists have set loose among the crowd, and the crowd has grown drunk on it once again. "Sarah Palin is an ordinary person!" Yes, all too ordinary.




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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:39 PM
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29. It was part of a Pro/Con duo, with a rebuttal by Micheal Gerson
The rubuttal made my head spin -- it as basically: "simple people, like the populist farm-state conservative William Jennings Bryan, can be smarter than well-educated people, like the East Coast Liberal (shudder) HL Mencken, who hated Blacks, Jews and women. Plus Westerners like Reagan and Goldwater are just naturally better people and have better values than the horrible East Coast elites. Plus Palin has a little Down syndrom baby that she was wonderful enough not to abort, so that makes her better than Menken, who was for eugenics. So there. Anyone with Good Values is by definition smart enough to be President!" <---not direct quotes, but there's the gist of it.

Can't find a link, but I read both of the editorials aloud to my SO as we drove to work this morning.
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OakCliffDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:11 AM
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30. K & R
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Suprk Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:57 AM
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31. Execelent read
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 06:38 AM
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32. Religious Beliefs are an important aspect if they are irrational
Normally a person's religious beliefs are a private matter. However, if their beliefs are as beyond the pale as are Palin's then they should be scrutinized. Her election would be analogous to a fanatical Muslim running for office who was determined to convert every American to their belief under the threat of death. These End-Timers are no different than the nitwit Jonestown cultists that are so deluded that they committed mass suicide. I feel sorry for them, but I don't want my child en and grandchildren to be scarified by some jerk like Palin to fulfill their their bizarre irrational beliefs. We have already experienced one disaster, the Iraq War, that was supposedly inspired and ordained by a crackpot that believed he was being directed by God. That wasn't God that was whispering in his ear, it was Rove.
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