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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:24 PM
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Hillary > Bill
'nuff said.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:26 PM
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1. It appears that way, for sure.
:hi:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:26 PM
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2. Actually, I've still more respect for Bill.
You can take me at my word.
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:30 PM
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5. Nope. I think you should tell us why, with details that can be confirmed.
Otherwise shut the fuck up, because Hillary has been a trooper, while Bill has been aloof.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:48 PM
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12. You want empirical evidence of my opinion?
"Otherwise shut the fuck up, because Hillary has been a trooper, while Bill has been aloof."

Hillary's done just enough of what she needs to keep from looking terrible.

Bill, for what it's worth, is more honest. Chalk it up to the booze.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:18 PM
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15. He doesn't drink, he's allergic to alcohol.
He does have rosacea, that's the reason for his bulbous nose.

Having said that, there's nothing wrong with either Clinton's behavior. Hillary has done far more for Obama than Kennedy did for Carter and Bill has been quite civil, which is more than can be expected considering the crap thrown at him during the primary.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:54 PM
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18. LOL
There's no such thing as an alcohol allergy.

But if you believe that, you probably believe the rest of that nonsense too.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:45 PM
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23. Actually, there is such a thing as an alcohol allergy
though typically people are allergic to some of the ingredients like malt or gluten that are in some of the drinks.


http://foodallergies.about.com/od/livingwithfoodallergies/a/alcohol.htm
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:19 PM
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16. Obama is walking EXACTLY what Bill Clinton is Talking about
Don't waste your time whining about the VP. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25459034/">Speak glowingly, on a personal level, about your opponent. http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080830/NEWS02/808300350">Speak glowingly, on a personal level, about your opponents VP selection. In short, take the high road.

In your anger, you missed the point completely. It is not necessary to, 'hate,' your opponent, in fact it weakens your position.

If it is good enough for Barak Obama, it is good enough for me. The fact that he is owning McCain, tells me it works. But hey, what would Bill Clinton know about winning a presidential election anyway, right?

Oh, and by the way, specific links are included.
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TooRaLoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:27 PM
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3. Agreed. nt
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:28 PM
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4. If Hillary would divorce Bill, I'd be tempted to vote for her in 2012 if the country goes in the ...
crapper. I'm sure tired of Bill's antics. :(
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:31 PM
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6. Well I always vote Dem no matter what... I hope you have fun with your conditional vote.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:39 PM
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8. I put my Country before party loyalty. Sorry. Some people misbehave and do not deserve
our respect. Sadly, some of those people choose to put a D behind their names, but often are not true to the party platform.
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:43 PM
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10. So you'd sit out in 2012 if it were McCain against Clinton?
If so, you are no better than a PUMA.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:51 PM
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13. No, you're putting words into my mouth. You should know better than those tactics? :(
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:54 PM
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19. What did you mean then by saying that you'd be tempted to vote for Hillary in 2012?
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 05:56 PM by jesus_of_suburbia
please explain under what situation you were talking about.

Were you saying in a Primary?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:36 PM
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7. Hillary + Bill = Plausible Deniability for Hillary 2012
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 04:59 PM by ClarkUSA
Meanwhile, the MSM notices Bill's comments about McCain/Palin:

SEPTEMBER 23, 2008 6:32
The Palin Effect: Bill Clinton Edition

The former President sounds a little smitten himself, as he explains why voters might be drawn to Sarah Palin:
“I come from Arkansas; I get why she’s hot out there,” Mr. Clinton said. “Why she’s doing well.”

Speaking to reporters before his Clinton Global Initiative meeting, Mr. Clinton described Ms. Palin’s appeal by saying,
“People look at her, and they say: ‘All those kids. Something that happens in everybody’s family. I’m glad she loves
her daughter and she’s not ashamed of her. Glad that girl’s going around with her boyfriend. Glad they’re going to
get married.’ ”

Mr. Clinton said voters would think: “I like that little Down syndrome kid. One of them lives down the street. They’re
wonderful children. They’re wonderful people. And I like the idea that this guy does those long-distance races. Stayed
in the race for 500 miles with a broken arm. My kind of guy.”

The comments come only a few days after he offered this tribute to John McCain:
Clinton said: "I've never concealed my admiration and affection for Senator McCain. I think he's a great man."

http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/09/the_palin_effect_bill_clinton.html


When's the last time he said anything as gushing about Obama, the Democratic nominee during a time of great national peril?

On CNN yesterday, Cheney biographer Stephen Hayes said it best when he reported, "The McCain campaign LOVES it when
Bill gets on TV. They hope Bill gives an interview everyday until Election Day because it's good for McCain." The panel was
discussing how it was obvious that Bill Clinton can't bring himself to compliment or endorse Barack Obama in any personal
way.

:wtf:
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:09 PM
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14. He did the same thing in '04. He's off his rocker.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:57 PM
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21. I know. He's an unprincipled megalomaniac who wants a Clinton II presidency by any means necessary.
Hillary is playing along, of course. They are a two sides of the same Clintonian false coin.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:42 PM
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9. you don't have to do this n/t
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:46 PM
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11. OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What is up with you guys?
You couldn't just comment on the other 50 threads bashing the Clintons today?
Is this flame-bait, because these issues have been addressed already.
Seriously, what is your problem?
Why on earth can you not let this go -- you are just as bad as the PUMAS!
Obama won the nomination. Obama is going to win the White House. Our lives will improve.
Are you not looking forward to that and all you can do is focus on the Clintons?
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:21 PM
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17. If you would, please compare the statement released by Obama-Biden
concerning Sarah Palin with what Bill has said.

"We send our congratulations to Governor Sarah Palin and her family on her designation as the republican nominee for Vice President. It is yet another encouraging sign that old barriers are falling in our politics. While we obviously have differences over how best to lead this country forward Governor Palin is an admirable person and will add a compelling new voice to this campaign," said Senator Barack Obama and Senator Joe Biden.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/amandascott/gG5Dfx

They congratulated her, they complimented her and then said that they have a difference in opinion on issues. They did not slam her or attack her on a personal level. Is their statement so different than what Bill has said regarding Palin?

IMO, Hillary and Bill are taking their cues from Obama's campaign toward Palin. She should not be the focus of their attention, that should be McCain. By attacking her they would provide the Republicans with a martyr which would give them more voter sympathy than she deserves. To treat her as insignificant is the best route to go.

The media are now fact checking her and stories are coming out that are not favorable to her. Let the attacks come from them, not those politicians who are representing Obama directly.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:56 PM
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20. Socks > Both of them
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:13 PM
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22. Best answer yet.
:)
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