If Obama avoids a vote in the Senate on the bailout, it will cost him the election.

[CK_John]

This vote will probably be scheduled to get McCain out of the debate Friday, so be it. Obama has to be in the Senate for the vote come hell or high water.

[truthisfreedom]

1. He floated the idea of not voting today to see what the reaction would be.

[CK_John]

6. Unless the vote actually takes place before Friday it is McCain's out. There will be no debate this

week.

[1corona4u]

18. He did not....he said he would be there if the vote is close.

Candy Crowley (sp?) reported it on CNN today.

[scheming daemons]

2. Has even ONE of your wacky predictions EVER come true?

None that I recall.

[CK_John]

9. Que Sera, Sera n/t

[CreekDog]

37. que sera, sera, whatever will be will be, unless ck_john says it will be

in which case it won't be... :eyes:

and no, i don't think even one of your predictions has come true.

[CreekDog]

38. not only don't his predictions pan out, most of them aren't even plausible

perhaps in some alternate universe them come true, as for this one, no so much... :eyes:

[ShortnFiery]

3. Obama should "cut all ties" from this corporatist bail out of the wealthy by the middle class.

:thumbsdown:

[wyldwolf]

4. oh dear God! SKIP!

[CreekDog]

15. nice to firmly agree with you on something!

:hi: ;)

[Jennicut]

5. Uh, its not gonna be close so I think they can go to the debates on Friday

None of that made sense, cost him the election???

[Catch22Dem]

7. Thread ratings R fun! SKIP!

[Mojorabbit]

31. This is why this ratings system sucks

This is an important topic. This will be the biggest decision both candidates make prior to the election.

[musicblind]

34. I agree. This is a shining example of what is wrong with this new rating system. I'll be glad when

the new rating system is either gone or revised.

[CreekDog]

40. this is an important topic (the bailout bill), but this is a stupid thread about it

which predicts Obama will lose if he doesn't vote on it and that McCain won't show up at the debates. :wtf:

neither of these predictions is based in reality.

[musicblind]

42. I do think that it will look bad if Obama does not vote for it. It probably wont cost the election

but the point of any thread is to discuss it. I see nothing disruptive or invalid about a thread discussing that topic.

[CreekDog]

39. oh hell, it's just disruptive

skip would be a compliment.

[blue_onyx]

8. I hope he chooses to vote

I don't think it would cost him the election. It would, however, look bad for him to skip the vote. He needs to show he'll make the difficult decisions when necessary.

[FrenchieCat]

10. Why should he vote for it?

Sounds like a trick.

McCain and Republicans have it in their platform to oppose government bail out of big business.

It appears that the WH and Big Business have rigged the game to make this a crisis.

If Obama votes for this, and McCain doesn't, then McCain becomes the "reformer", and Obama becomes a Bush supporter.

Obama and every Democrat should vote against this bill, seems to me....if they bother to vote at all.

This is the GOP September/October suprise.

[CK_John]

11. I said nothing about how he should vote. But. . .he has to vote. n/t

[FrenchieCat]

13. Why?........the whole thing is made up.

[CK_John]

19. The details are not even known yet, so I have no idea how he should but he needs to vote. n/t

[FrenchieCat]

25. The whole thing is made up.......

That's why it has been timed as it has.

[FrenchieCat]

26. The whole thing is made up.......

That's why it has been timed as it has.

[Major Hogwash]

45. Allow me to disagree.

Even if it were true that it were "made up", as you say, the American people are going to be impacted by this vote for the next 30 years.

Bubba was on John Stewart tonight and explained it in pretty good detail. It is huge. It will affect the entire world.

[Mojorabbit]

30. I agree

He has to vote. Any thing else will make him look like he cannot make firm decisions on the most important of matters.

[CreekDog]

12. Your predictions are so whacked out, and you typically predict multiple contradictory outcomes

remember when you said Biden would drop out?

remember when you said Obama would pick Melinda Gates or Caroline Kennedy (days later you said he wouldn't pick a VP at all)?

remember McCain dropping out and endorsing Jindal for the nomination?

remember airline problems and gas problems meaning that delegates would not be able to get to the convention?

remember how Obama was going to be forced to offer Bloomberg the VP slot?

remember John Edwards was going to restart his campaign?

Are you on drugs? Seriously.

[CK_John]

16. I like to express the possibilities, drugs are not part of my world, and thank your interest. n/t

[Overseas]

14. Too gloom and doom. No drama Obama will figure it out. //nt

[1corona4u]

17. Just stop....he already said that he would go back, if he is needed.

If the vote is anywhere near close, he will be there.

[CK_John]

21. No matter how close, if he ducks the vote he will lose. n/t

[1corona4u]

24. No, he won't....

Sheesh...panic much?

[CreekDog]

41. he's always wrong, so when you read his words, consider the source

i'm so tired of this crap and it's definetely showing.

[CreekDog]

20. That you predicted it makes it much less likely to happen

Your track record absolutely sucks.

Out of how many predictions has even 1 come true?

Heck you predicted multiple times that McCain wouldn't be the nominee and gave Obama a hard time for acting as if McCain would. :eyes: :banghead:

You are like that guy in "Memento". I swear you can't remember what you said 2 minutes ago.

[CK_John]

23. This thread is not about me. You complain but never post an opinion. n/t

[CreekDog]

35. i posted my opinion about your predictions

which is the most useful thing i could do here.

rather than worry that people will believe you and be worried (based on your flawed premise and based on your hasty conclusion from that flawed premise), i want them to know your abysmal track record regarding predictions.

and by the way, your predictions are not only bad, they are demoralizing and that's why i'm giving you a hard time.

you take no responsibility for being wrong, for saying things that you contradict within days and for doing this almost constantly over many months.

you've been wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

why on earth would you think you would be right about anything?

at this point, if you think of anything, i recommend that you post the exact opposite as a prediction --you might be in the ballpark then, but not until.

[Major Hogwash]

46. I think you owe him a big, fat apology.

That's what I think.

[gravity]

22. Obama is going to duck the vote along with McCain

I would put money on it.

[ecstatic]

27. I agree that he should take a stand on this issue. He has to one up McShame

at every turn. If McShame shows, he must show. If Mcshame doesn't show, he really must show then.

[Tektonik]

28. If he does not vote for it, he needs to at least have a speech about it

He can't and I know he will not avoid the situation.

[mwooldri]

29. Obama only has to be in the Senate if McSame shows up.

If both are absent it doesn't change anything. It'll be an effective 98 seat Senate. 48 Democrats, 48 Repukes, 1 Socialist and 1 Pseudo-Repuke. We can pretty much count on the Socialist to vote with the Democratic Party caucus. Again it comes down to the junior Senator for Connecticut having the so-called tie-breaker decision.

However if it is an "important vote" I do expect both Obama and McSame to show up.

Mark.

[curious one]

32. This a trap for Obama and dems. Approach it with cautious. The crisis is made up by

WH. They have been working on it for months. Avoid at all cost.

[samuraiguppy]

33. thank you for your concern

[SeattleGirl]

36. And if McSame doesn't vote?

Will he be off the hook?

[Major Hogwash]

44. This is the golden egg that has been laid by the golden goose!! Obama must grab it! Now!!

This is the opportunity of a lifetime!!

This is the perfect chance for Obama to show off his leadership skills!
This is the greatest time in a campaign for Obama to show off his financial management knowledge!!

Obama is a genius, he can multi-task, he can pull it off, vote and debate on the same day!!
Let him shine!
He can do it!


Every undecided voter in the country will be paying attention to this vote - the greatest financial debacle since 1929!!!! It affects the entire world!!

The hell with Johnny Mac, let Obama be Obama.

Did you hear his speech on Monday?
Oh my gawd, it was brilliant!!!
Obama is pure genius!
He is more forceful than Kerry!
He is more confidant than Gore!
Obama is a magnificant bastard!
Oh my gawd, he is outstanding!!

He can do this with ease - it would be as if he were just slipping his slippers off at the end of a long day.
No sweat!
Nothing to it!

My gawd, the man is ready!
The man is pumped!

You should have heard his speech.
It was graceful.
It was forceful.
It was elegant!!

It was unreal.

[Major Hogwash]

43. No truer words were ever spoken! Obama must back up his words with actions!!

He MUST vote!

Either way he votes, he must take a stand NOW!!!!!

The debate's in the bag for Obama, he can afford to go to the Senate and vote, if this falls on Friday.

But, he must vote on this issue - it is critical that the American people see that he is a man of his word and that he will take actions to back up his words!!

Obama must vote on this issue!!

It is the greatest opportunity for a nominee to show his leadership and his financial management knowhow!!

This is it - this is what the election will boil down to.

Carpe diem!!!!!!