So, this Bail Out is a GOP trick to distance McCain From Bush?

[FrenchieCat]

and have the Democrats, including Obama vote for a Bazillion Dollar Bail out that McCain and Republicans won't vote to support? If it is in the GOP platform NOT to support such a Bail Out, and it is the White House and Big Business' fault that it happened, why should Democrats support such a Vote?

So even if the measure fail, will those who voted for it have it used against them during their campaign?

If that is what is happening, have the Democrats figured this out yet?

[mth44sc]

1. This thing

is a way for Bush to blame his recession on the Dems when and if they tell him to take a flying F---ing leap...

If they don't - then they are going to own whatever happens...

At least that is what the repubs are hoping. Trouble is - most folks blame them for the mess to begin with.

[FrenchieCat]

2. So Obama shouldn't be voting on this.....

[mth44sc]

4. At best

we oughta be voting for a limited and targeted recovery program - and then see where we are in January.

This wholesale buy up of the banking systems junk is just plain foolish.

[seaglass]

5. Voting is not optional on this. It's too important and he will look

spineless if he no shows; there is no legitimate way for him to explain not voting on this to the general public. Too much of a risk.

[FrenchieCat]

6. Why not. Sounds like something that was drummed up from Bush CO.,

and pushed by Wall Street and the media.

[seaglass]

8. Because the whole damn country is watching what is going on

and to have the Democratic nominee blow off a vote will look exactly like he is avoiding a tough decision and there is no way to SPIN that to make him look good.

[FrenchieCat]

9. So McCain is not going to vote on it......

But ok. whatever.

[wmbrew0206]

14. I thought he played it smart. If the bill is going to pass by a wide margin...

Obama will stay on the campaign trail.

If it is going to be close, he'll be there to vote on it.

[TheKentuckian]

3. It's probably a little more complex than that

McShame cares nothing about doing what's right or even what he believes.
He will take the opposite position, permitted.

He'll claim that Obama doesn't care about the country and will drive us into a Depression for politics, if he says no deal and if he goes for it then McCain will play the conservative angle.

McCain has to be tied down on this or culled from the herd. No money, no surrogates, and a public blackballing and support for Obama.

[BlueIdaho]

7. Obama must vote

or it ties into a broader narrative that he never takes a hard stand. If its any consolation NO NONE in congress feels like helping BushCo these days and congressional republicans justifiably feel like they have been thrown to the wolves so I suspect the deal will be "everybody in the boat or the boat stays at the dock."

[FrenchieCat]

10. If he votes, it has to be against it.......

then.

[seabeckind]

11. been screaming at the TV all day

I've been screaming at the TV all day on this. How is it that our dems are so smart but they haven't managed to recognize a repub tactic in 30 years?

This issue is a repub issue designed entirely to enflame their base and move the independents. Been looking for an October surprise? Surprise!

Only one option for the dems as I see it-- refuse to play the game. Forget the regulation idea. That word has way too many syllables for the common folk to grasp. And besides the regulators are part of the same thieving group that did this in the first place.

And forget the idea of helping the little guy with his mortgage. They're gone by now and besides, as far as the repubs are concerned, they don't deserve to be rewarded with a free house. Now a greedy thieving banker, that's just the american dream in action.

So as I see it the only possible solution is a delaying action. Argue amounts, argue rules, argue breakups, argue weather ... whatever. Just don't do a vote. It's a lot of money and just throwing good after bad. Kick it down the road and insist on the division of derivatives into individual cases which can ride on their own merits.

The way the thing is structured now the taxpayer picks up the bill for the bad elements of the derivatives and the investment guy gets to keep the good one. Talk about buying pigs in a poke...

[Median Democrat]

12. Hey, If McCain Does Not Support The Bush-Paulson Plan, Why Should The Democrats?

[ladjf]

13. In the first place, if Bush and Cheney support it, we know that it is

bad for America. Why would we suddenly decide that Bush is right on this?

Vote NO bailout. Yes to oversight from this point on. That alone would stimulate confidence in the market.

[AtomicKitten]

15. No gov't bailouts is in the GOP platform which contradicts McBush's current faux populist stance.

I heard McBush say that nobody should look to his vote as having any relevance. Riiiiight.

No worries. I think the GOP is talking out of both sides of their mouth and they have been rendered impotent on the economy.