"Republicans Should Vote Against the Bailout" ~ The Next Right

[mzmolly]

Saw this Countdown tonight and thought it was important to share.

http://thenextright.com/patrick-ruffini/republicans-should-vote-against-the-bailout">THE NEXT RIGHT
Republican incumbents in close races have the easiest vote of their lives coming up this week: No on the Bush-Pelosi Wall Street bailout.

God Himself couldn't have given rank-and-file Republicans a better opportunity to create political space between themselves and the Administration. That's why I want to see 40 Republican No votes in the Senate, and 150+ in the House. If a bailout is to pass, let it be with Democratic votes. Let this be the political establishment (Bush Republicans in the White House + Democrats in Congress) saddling the taxpayers with hundreds of billions in debt (more than the Iraq War, conjured up in a single weekend, and enabled by Pelosi, btw), while principled Republicans say "No" and go to the country with a stinging indictment of the majority in Congress.

This creates pressure on the "change" message. If this issue is made controversial, and Obama is not the first to make it an issue, how exactly is a Washington deal backed by Bush's Treasury Secretary "change?"

But for this to be actionable, it has to be controversial. So this can't be a few lonely voices like Coburn and DeMint. It needs to be the bulk of the Republican conference. In an ideal world, McCain opposes this because of all the Democratic add-ons and shows up to vote Nay while Obama punts."

The person who wrote the above is said to have connections to the McCain camp. The debacle is beginning to feel more like Republican strategy than an emergency.

It is my belief that McSame is going to vote against any bailout deal and Obama should as well.

As I watched the hearings today I was reminded of this:



I feel we should wait on bail out decision until after the election if at all possible? Perhaps we should call for a bi-partisan commission to make recommendations as to what needs to be done and buy some time while we figure out if we're being told the truth?

[TexasObserver]

1. that's yet another reason our party is crazy if it passes this bailout

[mzmolly]

2. I'm beginning to agree. We need to stall or orchestrate an Obama NO vote.

This is BS.

[redstate_democrat]

3. McCain will vote against it, if he bothers to even vote.

So what if he is telling people to vote on it now. He changes his mind about big issues within hours. Remember, he said the bill should be "clean". That is why BushCo is demanding that it be clean. They know the Democrats would NEVER give them the bill as is. So when the bill gets the Democratic touch put on it, all of the Republicans will vote against it, based of course on "conservative principles".

They have Rush out there telling his audience that this is a Democratic thing and that Paulson is a Democrat. They are feeding disinformation to their own base as of right now. They will spin the hell out of this.

[mzmolly]

5. Abso-frikken-loutley!

Hope that made sense? Ya NAILED IT!

[ProSense]

4. It's always a game. Repubs trying to play mind games

Not going to work

No to Paulson's idiotic bill, yes to a bill like Dodd's.

[gravity]

6. The Republicans are bluffing

If this doesn't pass, the political consequences will be much worst than voting for it.

[mzmolly]

8. I want to see McCain sign on as co-sponsor in the Senate before we submit

jack. I think we need to ask McCain and Obama to agree to sponsor any bill?

I don't think they're bluffing on the no vote given they'll lose financially if this is a genuine threat? I think they're bluffing on the pre-emptive bail out however.

[Marsala]

11. Only if the economy actually DOES collapse, and violently

If nothing catastrophic happens, everyone but Paulson and Bush will be fine.

[SoonerPride]

7. I'd say we table it in a committee and then go on recess.

The markets will have to just wait until 2009.

Sorry.

[mzmolly]

9. I agree. Promise a solution - but after the election. We could frame it as

giving the market time to correct itself or?

[mzmolly]

10. "NO MCCAIN, NO BAIL OUT."

My new motto. ;)

[FrenchieCat]

12. Yep.....Colin and his vial!

Now, its that other Secretary!

[TheDonkey]

13. Democrats cannot pass this Bush bailout. PERIOD.

[mzmolly]

14. Not without some concessions and that "old gray haired dude" named McCain.

;)

[TheDonkey]

17. Exactly, we can't let McClown try to wiggle out of this one or bail out the rethugs

[endthewar]

15. Pelosi did say that Bush needed to get more Republicans on board

She knows they'll try something like this.

[mzmolly]

19. She needs to insist on McCain

signing on to a Senate bill as a co-sponsor.

:shrug:

[endthewar]

20. That'll never work

Not even Bush is dumb enough to call out McCain for support of the bill. McCain would jump on that opportunity to burnish his maverick credentials and blast Bush.

[mzmolly]

21. Then no deal. I should have said Dodd needs to contact McCain

not Pelosi or Bush.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

16. Bushand Cheney want to bring the country down and suspend the constitution

and a third term! Nightmare!

[TheKentuckian]

18. I agree we can't pass the F- assignment that BushCo. turned in

but the reality is we need to pass something. It's Congress' responsibility to pass legislation for the overall interest of the country and doing nothing in the face of a collapse to score points is dangerous and ill conceived, in my opinion.

Other than emotion and the reality that any move may fail to stop the cascade failure of the economy, what are the real reasons we should just let it burn? I'm asking that from the point of view of working within the system and actually wanting the market to work.

I think that we need to pass a good bill that meets Obama's criteria and is designed to protect the economy by people that grasp the economy from as many perspectives as we can get.

[mzmolly]

22. Then we need to have McCain on the bill as a cosponsor.

And most likely Obama too.