Drew Griffin on CNN trying to make an issue of Biden's bridge projects vs. Palin's denials

[zulchzulu]

It's one thing to say you were asked about the "bridge to nowhere" and you LIE that you were always against it and didn't take the money... except that you ( as in Sarah Palin) were for the project AND took the money.

Should it then be an issue that Biden did get earmarks and money for bridges in Delaware connecting some beaches and put it all in one bucket about bridges?

Some goofball named Drew Griffin on Cooper 360 was trying as hard as he could to turn Palin's complete LIE into a "aw, shucks, they all do it" nonsense. I would ask this fool just where Biden said he was against the funding for the bridges he got and denied it even though the money was used for the bridges.

Shame on CNN for hiring this buzzard. I can see Palin now trying to use this ruse in the debate with Biden...

:puke:

[Clio the Leo]

1. Anyone who speaks ill of Joe should be beaten about the head and shoulders....

..... woohooo! Pretending to be a fascist is fun!

[jberryhill]

2. Oh Jiminy Christmas.... We have a total of six major bridges in Delaware

And one of those bridges (a twin span) services most eastern seaboard traffic between NY and Baltimore/DC.

We have a federal canal that runs entirely across the state from the Delaware Bay to the Chesapeake bay, and the Army Corps of engineers is primarily responsible for ONE of those bridges. Hey, if the feds let us fill in the canal... fine, we'll put roads there. But we aren't the ones who cut the state in half in the first place, and that's where most of our bridges are.

We did overspend on one of the minor I-95 bridges, but that was mostly state money, and we have another minor state-owned bridge that needs expansion.

One of our major bridges downstate has its foundation eroding.

But all of our whopping six bridges carry immense volumes of traffic.

Here:



Don't like it? Then stay in New Jersey.

[gauguin57]

4. As someone who goes to Rehoboth Beach from southern PA, I can attest to the traffic on those bridges

But I have to add that the road and bridge improvements in Delaware have saved immeasurable time and gasoline for the thousands who head to the Delware Beaches throughout the summer. I remember what it was like before. Thank you, Joe -- the bridge improvements have helped move tourists and their dollars more easily into and back out of your state!

[jberryhill]

5. Yeah...

The Route 1 bridge made it a lot easier for you folks to crowd our beaches.

If you're from Southern PA, vacation in Wildwood or one of those other ungodly Jersey beaches where you belong, and take the Commodore Barry or Walt Whitman bridges.

(It's the bridge at Indian River that needs major work, and that's due largely to the incredibly awful job that our former DoT commissioner, Nathan Hayward the Turd, did)

[gauguin57]

6. I usually come to Rehoboth on the off-season. Too crowded and expensive during the summer.

I liked Wildwood ... WHEN I WAS 18, AND BEFORE THEY CHANGED THE DRINKING AGE! Sorry, no Jersey beaches for this Delaware- (and North Carolina-) loving girl.

Dolle's Carmel Corn is nature's most perfect food. I must come to Rehoboth for that. What, my off-season money not green enough for ya'?

And P.S. ... are you in the Delaware Independence Party? Wanna secede from the nation, and stop all outsiders at the bridges? Just try it, honey. You can't stand in the way of my appetite for carmel corn!

[jberryhill]

8. It'd be a lot greener if we had sales tax

Okay, fine, but don't tell any of your PA friends where you are going. It's bad enough with the DC crowd down there.

(or enjoy the view from Dolle's webcam http://www.rehobothbeachcam.com/index.html )

[zulchzulu]

9. Drew Griffin was yakking about the Betheny Beach bridge...

As one who knows exactly where that is (my parents vacation near there), it was a nightmare before...

[jberryhill]

10. Here's the problem...

It's a tidal inlet, and the bridge pre-dates the boom in resort traffic from Bethany all the way down to Ocean City, Maryland. The economic value of that traffic is huge and affects several states.

The foundations have been scoured beyond original design estimates by tidal action. The plan is to replace it with a clear span that will not have any supports in the water.



We're not talking about a "new bridge" in the sense of hypothetical or questionable demand or economic value. I question whether the foundation of the old bridge was adequately maintained, but that's "water under the bridge" at this point.

It's also a hurricane evacuation route.

I'd be fine if they made it a toll bridge to offset the cost.

I'd also be fine if folks from PA and New Jersey want to quit going to Delaware and Maryland resorts on the south side of the inlet, but that's not going to happen. A huge chunk of the DC elite have their summer homes within miles of either side of that bridge, and if they want to go to Virginia Beach instead, that would also be fine by me.

Otherwise, the old bridge needs to be replaced and a "re-do" of the foundation on that bridge would cost more than the proposed replacement suspension bridge, and still require more maintenance.

[cottonseed]

3. Is this what's called "false equivalency"?

Cooper... :puke:

[1corona4u]

7. But, Joe has been up front about it too...

all of DE's earmarks, in fact. Did they mention that? Of course not.

[zulchzulu]

11. It appears CNN is trying to run with this "angle"

Biden and Obama never said they voted against it nor did they say they voted against it AND TOOK THE MONEY.

Apple... meet orange.

[blondeatlast]

12. This is just like the Central Arizona Project; yes, it was an earmark--but

it was tremendously beneficial to the state and has paid for itself in tax revenue several times over.