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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:17 AM
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WA POST: Palin on thin ice
The way she answers questions brings to mind -- I have Alaska on the brain, admittedly -- the image of a polar bear, jumping from rhetorical ice floe to ice floe, drifting some but eventually managing to get safely to dry land. No flubs, but you get the sense that she could plunge into the icy water at any moment. Palin has an odd tendency to use the same word twice in a sentence, as in, “The people of American realize that inherently all political power is inherent in the people,” or, about John McCain, “He can surpass the partisanship that must be surpassed to deal with an issue like this.” Or, combining word repetition with another Palin verbal tic, word dropping, this about the economic meltdown: “Well, you know, first Fannie and Freddie, different because quasi-government agencies there where government had to step in because the adverse impact all across our nation, especially with homeowners, is just too impacting.”

Ok, not everyone is Daniel Webster. Palin isn’t the first politician to dwell in the land of anodyne clichés such as, “We sort of have a do-nothing Senate right now where nobody is really wanting to pick up the ball and run with it.” Yet I always got the sense listening to George W. Bush tying himself up in rhetorical knots that his problem was more in the nature of getting the words to come out of his mouth correctly, not so much that he didn’t know what to say. Palin -- I’m not so sure.

An Alaska friend tells me that Palin has always benefited from being underestimated. Maybe I’m doing that. Maybe I’ve been around polished politicians too long to appreciate the unvarnished authenticity that obviously appeals to many voters. But there’s no Palin interview I’ve listened to, before or after her selection, that gave me the sense that she had anything but a millimeter-thin understanding of the issues facing the country she hopes to help lead.

Consider this exchange.

Hannity: What is our role as a country as it relates to national security?

Palin: Yes. That's a great question, and being an optimist I see our role in the world as one of being a force for good, and one of being the leader of the world when it comes to the values that -- it seems that just human kind embraces the values that -- encompass life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and that's just -- not just in America, that is in our world.

And America is in a position because we care for so many people to be able to lead and to be able to have a strong diplomacy and a strong military also at the same time to defend not only our freedoms, but to help these rising smaller democratic countries that are just -- you know, they're putting themselves on the map right now, and they're going to be looking to America as that leader.

We being used as a force for good is how I see our country.

Whew. Made it to the other side of that one.

Can’t wait for the debate. I bet it will be impacting.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2008/09/palin_on_thin_ice.html
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grannie4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:22 AM
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1. hi wi
:hi:
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:23 AM
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4. Hello back to you, grannie!
:hi:
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grannie4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:28 AM
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11. you know....
Edited on Wed Sep-24-08 10:29 AM by grannie4peace
that is holy land up there :)
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:35 AM
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15. yes, indeed, my friend!
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grannie4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:41 AM
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19. :)
:)
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:23 AM
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2. How do they know? She never appears in public or answers any questions!
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:23 AM
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3. When did it become DE RIGUER to praise the question that is asked...i.e.
"That's a great question." I hear that all the time now. It's REALLY annoying.
Just answer the QUESTION for Gawd's sake! We don't care what you THINK of it! :eyes:
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:26 AM
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8. I once read somewhere that by asking that question...
...it gives them a few more seconds to think of the answer.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:45 AM
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21. Xactly
After Reagan was asked a question he would always say "Well"... That made him look folksy and gave him time to think...
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:26 AM
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9. I once read somewhere that by asking that question...
...it gives them a few more seconds to think of the answer.

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SDJay Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:38 AM
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18. I think, when it comes to Churchy Spice,
she says this because the 10-watt bulb lights up in her head and she thinks, "Holy shit, I can actually answer this one." Even though her 'answer' is always absolutely worthless, 'great question' to her means 'thank you for not completely stumping me on something utterly basic.' She's so friggin' stupid that I think she gets excited when she thinks she can puke up a cliche-filled nothing answer, even though everything she says is a window into that Northern Exposure/Forrest Gump combo pea-sized brain of hers.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:53 AM
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22. Have you seen this
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momto3 Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 11:05 AM
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24. As a grad student, I was told to do this when I did not know the answer.
When speaking in front of an audience, my mentor always said to answer with "That is a really good question", if we did not know the answer. This allows for a couple of moments to rethink the question.

Since Palin does this so often, it indicates that she does not grasp what she is being asked.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:24 AM
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5. Every time I read anything she has said...it reminds me of...
...those essay questions on tests in high school. Many times I had no clue what the answer was but I would always manage to write a whole paragraph...words that said nothing. It never fooled teachers.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:27 AM
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10. sorry about that....
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:39 PM
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27. Okay...you win!
Ever since she was announced I was unable to distill what I felt/thought when I heard her speak and it was actually getting at me.

You have perfectly hit the nail on the head with your description! Don't mind if I borrow it now and then when I speak with others, do you?

Excellent!
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:24 AM
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6. She's a friggin' moron who is banking on, once again, her looks carrying her through another
"competition". That's all this is to her. She knows she's the prettiest one on either ticket and that is all that has buildt her confidence level high enough to go out in public and give speeches on behalf of McOldnGrumpy. It doesn't matter to her that she knows she has no grasp of U.S. foreign policy.. that is insignificant compared to how good looking she is.

she is making a laughing stock out of herself, women in general, and the U.S. electoral process.

It's not a friggin' BEAUTY PAGEANT!!
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Abies Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:24 AM
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7. I like what the rude pundit had to say about her.
"She's like President Bush, but stupid."
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:30 AM
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12. I've felt uneasy about a lot of things
in this race, but Palin has never been one of them.

The Bullshit Express is derailing.

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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:33 AM
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13. Palin is a walking jumble of cliches.
I doubt that there is an original thought inside that bubble brain of hers.
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Wanet Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:34 AM
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14. Beauty contest interview answers
Some other writer suggested this. They're not as bad as the awful contestant on the viral video talking about "The Eye-rack", but Palin's answers do have that feeling of trying to put the right words together, but not understanding. -- Wanet
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:44 AM
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20. I was just thinking the same thing!
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:36 AM
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16. One way to know the question was approved beforehand...
Palin: "Yes. That's a great question..."


Trust me on that one.

And I'm not even asking for 700 billion...
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:38 AM
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17. beauty pagent-speak
Please Sarah, (attempt to), without blinking, give us one or two sentences on (something you know absolutely
nothing about).

Normally you play this game at a party after a few drinks.
In Palin's case, you can skip the alcohol and get directly to the hilarity.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 11:02 AM
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23. I've said it before and I'll say it again.
The way she speaks reminds me of Bush whenever he's not working from a script.
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Cosmic Charlie Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 11:41 AM
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25. W at least knew what sounded right having lived his whole life amongst DC fat cats
Palin doesn't even have that to go on. What, is she going to burst into a moose call or something??
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:09 PM
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26. She uses a lot of words.
It's too bad they don't mean anything decipherable. Come to think of it her running mate does too.
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