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Thu Sep-25-08 08:34 AM
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is bill clinton supporting a mccain presidency? |
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:35 AM
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1. It appears that way to me. n/t |
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:55 AM
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24. Asked McSame to give the Opening Speech ~ why not Al Gore? |
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:35 AM
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2. If he isn't he is faking it well. |
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:35 AM
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He thinks IF...that's a big IF Obama loses Missy Hillary will get the nom. in 2012....UH......THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN
As I have said, I am looking to Billy FINALLY being irrelevant in 2009
He has just been awful
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:36 AM
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5. The man honoured Dixie veterans of the Civil War... |
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Anybody who's ever doubted that he's a racist fuck needs to learn some history.
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:54 AM
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22. History is rarely as straightforward or simple as we'd like it to be. |
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Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 08:55 AM by Spider Jerusalem
My 3rd great-grandfather fought for the Confederacy. He was a poor farmer from Clayton County, Georgia who enlisted in the Georgia militia in the spring of 1864, when he was 46 years old and well past military age, when Sherman was on his march to the sea, and he did it for one reason: to defend his home and family. He was not, so far as I know, political, nor did he own slaves, and there were thousands like him who fought for the Confederacy. I can't consider the situation and say I might not do the same thing myself.
Clinton is also a Southerner, from a former Confederate state; the South has an uneasy and vexed relationship with its past, but it seems to me that it's possible to honour men like my great-great-great grandfather, who took up arms not in the service of some racist ideology, but in defence of their homes against an invading army (and that the cause they were nominally supporting by doing so was morally bankrupt and wrong doesn't make their individual actions so).
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:22 AM
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51. Of Course I Would Have Fought For The Army Of The Potomac |
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But Sherman with his "total war" theory often didn't discriminate between civilian and military targets.
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:24 AM
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Would you if you'd been a Georgia farmer in the path of Sherman's march? What would you have done then?
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:56 AM
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27. Who did? McCain or Clinton? |
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Also, I would say that there is not a necessary link between honoring Confederate Veterans and racism - though there is most certainly a correlation. As has been said on Iraq and Vietnam, you can't confuse the warriors for the war.
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:05 AM
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37. Bill Clinton isn't racist |
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Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 09:07 AM by LostinVA
Even though I think he's going bonkers this election cycle, he isn't a racist, nor does he WANT a Republican to win... although at this point, McCain winning would doom teh Repubs even more, just because the next President will be a one-termer who is DOOMED from Day One. I'd prefer a two-term Dem. Yet another thing that ass Bush has spoiled.
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:36 AM
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:43 AM
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16. Caption for photo: "There's the son of bitch over there. Don't trust him!." n.t |
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:36 AM
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6. Only until HRC can run again in 2012. |
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:37 AM
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7. Bill, the gift that just keeps giving, and giving, and giving. nt |
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:37 AM
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8. Looks that way, doesn't it? |
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:38 AM
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:38 AM
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10. Indeed, so it appears from every one of his recent appearances. |
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And, what's up with inviting McLame to his event? Did he invite Obama? If not, why? I've about had it with Bill, and if Hillary thinks I'm letting her off the hook for not stopping Bill, she's nuts.
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:38 AM
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:39 AM
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Another day of Clinton bashing when McCain, the enemy, is on the ropes.
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:13 AM
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45. It makes you wonder what their real motives are, doesn't it. |
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:23 AM
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52. Indeed, it does make one wonder... |
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:39 AM
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13. I saw that on GMA.. I do not even know what to say..nt |
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:41 AM
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:41 AM
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his words are half and half between Obama and McCain but his actions says it all. It's time some folks come out of denial.
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:43 AM
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17. He can't accept that it's not his party anymore. |
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It's becoming more and more obvious, and I refuse to play the game of Twister that's required to defend his actions this week.
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:44 AM
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18. No doubt! Fuck him!!!!! |
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:49 AM
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19. More ridiculous, half-assed, tinfoil bullshit from Clinton-haters |
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This should be a day for roasting McCain over the coals for his cowardice in running away from the Obama debate, where he knows he's going to get his ass handed to him.
Instead, we get a sad sack of Clinton-haters...a group that seems to have more numbers here than they do at the free republic...whining and pissing their tired, whiny critiques.
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:52 AM
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that this is the day Bill Clinton should be roasting McCain over the coals for his cowardice in running away from the Obama debate, where he knows he's going to get his ass handed to him.
I'm so glad you agree.
Now where's Bill?
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:54 AM
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23. Are you being intentionally stupid, or is it accidental? |
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Bill and Hillary have been campaigning heavily for Obama this entire time now. By definition, that IS speaking out against McCain, Palin, and their backwards policies.
Twit.
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:58 AM
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29. i beg to differ. i'm not a clinton hater. but when mccain opens bills forum and he thanks cindy..... |
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:49 AM
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20. Of course not. Don't be stupid. He knows Obama's going to win... |
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and said he'd win BIG. No reason for Bubba to get in the mud.
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:55 AM
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25. Yes. Bill would rather see the country get fucked for his and Hillary's personal gain in 2012. |
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:57 AM
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28. What insults me most is that Bill Clinton must think that we, the American People, are too stupid |
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to see through "his act." :(
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:59 AM
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33. What's stupid is thinking Dennis K was going to get the nomination. |
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:25 AM
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54. Whence this remark? I supported DK because he has REAL Democratic values, to the core of his being. |
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:59 AM
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34. Yep--even the Freeptards know what he's up to--they love it. |
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:30 AM
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56. Do you think that Obama is too stupid to see through "his act"? After all, Obama |
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did meet with Clinton to discuss Bill's appearances on Barack's behalf. Do you really think he's gullible to accept "help" from someone who wants to see him defeated? You are allowing your hatred of Clinton to cloud your judgment.
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:55 AM
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26. Is McChicken just senile? |
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:58 AM
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30. Some of y'all really need to seek help, seriously. |
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:59 AM
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32. and some need to quit being enablers and living in fantasy world. n/t |
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:00 AM
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35. In your version of reality, has Obama said flattering things |
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about McCain? Just wondering.....
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:03 AM
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36. did obama give mccain a platform for this speech? just wondering. n/t |
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Thu Sep-25-08 08:58 AM
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31. looking for place for wife in 2012. didnt believe it in 2004 when people said it. all the bs he |
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did, being buddies with bush, son to barbara, people would say want kerry to lose so wife could run in 2008. i didnt believe it. i let it go in 2008. and now this
the hugest fuck off you egotistical self interested asshole
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:07 AM
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38. Thanks for making my point! |
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:09 AM
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39. egotistical self interested asshole.... so you agree |
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:13 AM
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44. No, you made my point that some of the Clinton obsessed |
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really should seek help. Just my opinion friend, have a good one!
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:15 AM
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47. you can have the facts right in front of face, yet continue to deny. n/t |
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:18 AM
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49. Why is Obama asking Clinton to go campaign for him? |
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:11 AM
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40. Of course he isn't. Post like this do nothing for unity and surely don't help Obama. |
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You are just wallowing in your Clinton hatred.
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:12 AM
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41. and having a dem put mccain on platform allowing him to STEAL obamas |
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Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 09:13 AM by seabeyond
5 points isn't a hell of a lot of help to obama either
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:20 AM
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50. You dodged the first time...I'll try again |
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In your version of reality, has Obama said flattering things about McCain?
Not a hard question, you can do it man!!
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:12 AM
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42. i'm a clinton fan maam, that's why it distresses me. clinton hater my ASS. |
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:25 AM
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55. Sorry if I misunterstood you intentions. |
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:12 AM
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43. Yes, he is. Or maybe he's thinking of running for Senate from Connecticut. |
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:14 AM
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46. Ridiculous and stupid. |
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