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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 08:35 AM
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This is what I don't get... This debate was supposed to focus on Foreign Affairs...
(No, not that hotty from Brazil from the 50's, get your mind out of the gutter)...

This is his strong point, this Foreign Affairs business.

Of course since Americans usually equate foreign affairs with guns and bombs, I guess they automatically think that someone who served in the Navy is automatically qualified as a certified, bona fide foreign affairs expert.

So why is he shying away from this first debate?

Who ever is running this train wreck of a campaign should be fired.

Oh, well, that won't happen. His Campaign Manager is a Lobbyist and that would destroy the whole bizarro feel of his campaign.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 08:39 AM
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1. Its not about his debate, its about hers
Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 08:40 AM by Boz
Postponing the Pres debate pushes back or cancels the VP debate, at least that what they are trying.

After she has performed so terribly on Couric and Gibson, they realized there is no way in hell she can handle even a softball debate.

So McCain did the only thing he could, try to cancel this fridays debate and have it moved to the VP debate and then reschedule the VP debate for a later time, which would either mean it never occurs or it happens too late for it to make any difference.

First they make the unprecedented effort to protect her using a massively constrained "debate" format which equates to not much moe than a softball interview then they realize she cant even do softball interviews, and thats even with editing, let alone a live audience, so now you have this.


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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 08:42 AM
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2. I relaize that, but the people won't fall for that...
They want to see all the denates...
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 08:51 AM
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3. Logic doesn't have much space in the McCain campaign or on this board, so stop it! nt
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 08:55 AM
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4. m.c.johnny would repeat his "bomb - america first - terror - enemies - national security -
patriotic troops - in my years as a POW..."

and after all that...

Barack will look over at him and ask, "What is your policy and what are your plans for programs to address these issues:

1. Iraq
2. Afghanistan
3. Iran
4. Russia/Georgia
5. Korea
6. NATO
7. Africa
etc.

and then: How do you propose to solidify the security of the United States of America with the threat of the collapse of our financial institutions and the affect that will have around the globe?"

m.c.johnny: "I was a POW."
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 08:56 AM
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5. It's confusing to you because you believe the hype.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 09:33 AM
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9. Come on, do you actually think I believe that crap...
I thought I made it pretty clear that the people who don't live and brathe poltics like we do are the ones who eat that shit up.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 09:05 AM
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6. my theory is that it's really a total meltdown with the rick davis being final straw
I think when the Rick Davis (Mccain's campaign manager) story hit, yesterday, about how his firm was still lobbying for Fannie Mac as of last month... Mccain musta flipped out.

They were already in damage control mode

* At the same time Fox declared Mccain had tanked to 39%... and i suspect Mccain went into a rage. Davis canceled his meetings with reporters, they went on the defensive trying to suggest he had no financial conflict of interest, but imagine how angry MCCAIN must have been since he's been going around insisting Davis had NO ties to Fannie Mac.

* At the same time... Bush is telling Mccain to get his ass to DC for a bailout pow-wow, yet Mccain was trying to play the fence without making any specific commitments within the negotiations.

* At the same time... Obama is saying they oughta do a joint press statement. lol

I think Mccain basically went on an internal rampage, yesterday, declared the campaign "shut down" and sought very dramatic changes internal to his campaign which we'll read about next week. I won't be surprised to learn that Davis gets pushed aside. They started canceling appearances. Tried to get out of the debates schedule (plural). They tried to make his travel to DC into a major act of leadership.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 09:05 AM
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7. I JUST posted a thread on this - I believe it's because of the early voting that started in
some red states. McCain would prefer the Independents and centrist Dems (who like him without knowing how truly hawkish he is and how firmly he attached himself to Bush's agenda) get their votes in NOW before they learn differently. Fer chrissakes, the corporate media certainly hasn't informed them of Mccain's bowing to the neocon agenda - they still call him a maverick and a reformer.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 09:15 AM
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8. He is not shyi ng away from the first debate .He simply wan ted
to appear to be takingn the lead in the Fiancial Crisis. He needs
to get those rock-ribbed conservatives in his own party lined up.

Canceling Debate --his nway nof saying the economy is about to go
into free-fall and this is more nurgent than the debate.

When Buffet compares the Crisis to Pearl Harbor, gives some
pause.
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