McCain opens Clinton Global Initiative; Obama's Closing it--why All the Clinton Hate?

[msanthrope]

Presidential hopefuls at Day 2 of Clinton confab
By DEEPTI HAJELA – 4 hours ago

NEW YORK (AP) — There are plenty of current and former world leaders at the Clinton Global Initiative, starting with the founder, former President Bill Clinton.

So it should be no surprise that the two men looking to join those ranks are scheduled to be there, too. Sens. John McCain and Barack Obama are both expected to address the conference on Thursday, at a session on water, food and energy issues.

McCain was scheduled to open the session in person, before heading to Washington where legislators are dealing with the financial crisis. Obama was expected to close the session, and address attendees by satellite.

SNIP--more at link...

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j8B1-PwJBy-WAKKzvQQClqRjT4mwD93DM5980

You know, President Clinton made a commitment to the third world above and beyond partisan bickering...why hate him for trying to help his charity? There's a whole world out there, not just this campaign.

I saw his interviews this morning....he was gracious, polite, and focused on his charity...he didn't say anything negative about McCain per the Obama campaign.....

Now--why are certain people on this board focused on Bill Clinton hate? After all, is it because they want do drive away Clinton voters????

I note that NONE of these same people who hate Bill have called out Jimmy Carter or Al Gore for not tearing McCain a new one---perhaps because there aren't any Carter/Gore voters out there...

Provocateurs is what you are.....today we should be unified, and kicking ohn McCain's ass.....

[BlooInBloo]

1. Why indeed, why indeed.

[msanthrope]

2. Disruptors---Getting their McCain points......we should be kicking McCain ass

today.....

[BlooInBloo]

3. Yeah... THAT'S what it is...

:rofl:


EDIT: You guys are REALLY good on your daily talking points.

[Occam Bandage]

7. I wonder how many points Bill got this week?

It would be a bit easier for us to "kick McCain ass" if we didn't have the last Democratic President saying "hey, no fair, don't attack him" every time we pull ahead in the polls.

[bullimiami]

4. i was trying to find out if obama was on the agenda. thanks.

and hes the closing act. the headliner.

[The Traveler]

5. I'm not a provocateur

But I do not understand a strategy in which our candidate is barely mentioned by name and graced with the faintest of praises while Bill all but fondles John's manhood in public. I'm not asking Clinton to be an attack dog, but it would be nice if he quit building up our opponent.

[Spider Jerusalem]

6. THIS probably has something to do with it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7179728

[msanthrope]

10. Are you quoting what some low-count poster heard on Faux News?

Really????

[Spider Jerusalem]

13. You seem to have an extremely low post count yourself.

Especially for someone who's been a member of this forum since 2001. Put into perspective, the author of the post I was referencing, who joined a little over two months ago, has posted to this site with twelve times the frequency you have. So that's pretty much a ploy of 'discredit the messenger'. And it's not just Fox News; I've seen this basically confirmed from another source. Try here (with a link, even): http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7179939

Nice try, though.

[niceypoo]

16. Low post count and no link provided...

...now that is a solid source to overreact to!!

[nc4bo]

8. why the pauses? Weird. nt

[Beacool]

9. What else did you expect.?

NOTHING Bill or Hillary do is ever good enough for a certain sector of the party.

Who cares..........

[msanthrope]

11. You are right---guess the 8 years of peace and prosperity

were'nt enough......

[ladjf]

12. Why? Most Democrats, the people who realize how important this

elections is, are disappointed to see that the one person who could actually wrap up this election for Obama has chosen, for whatever his reason, to not do so. That is disappointing.

[Beacool]

14. Most Democrats?

The only ones I see continually hating on Clinton are the LW blogs.

[ladjf]

17. I personally heard Clinton say that he was going to start speaking

for Obama at the end of September, after he finished up some work with his International Initiative.
If he does what he said he would do, then I'll no longer be "disappointed". I will be pleased.

[Beacool]

18. OK

That's fair.

[ladjf]

19. I just want those crooked bastards out of office in the White House.

My opinion is they Bush and his cronies should be in jail. We all know what it would mean if McCain were to win. He might even be worse than Bush.

The whole Country is on the verge of a mass psychological breakdown. They've had to live with a blizzard of disastrous calamities. We are all "hanging" on every shred of information that might have a bearing on the election outcome.

Maybe I'm taking it all too seriously. Perhaps this is just another election. But, I don't think so.

[niceypoo]

15. Some people take everything out of context..

...then overreact to it. Bigotry does that to a person. Fortunately, they are a tiny minority. Not very progressive, are they?

[BigDDem]

20. He could cure cancer and the usual nut cases around here

would say "what took ya so long???"

[DefenseLawyer]

21. Praising McCain for acting in "good faith"

and repeating McCain's talking point that Obama ducked his "town hall" challenge isn't curing cancer. It isn't anything like curing cancer. You can look at it any way you like, from any angle, and it is nothing like curing cancer. It's bullshit, yes. It's indefensible, yes. Curing cancer, no.

[BigDDem]

22. In your version of reality did Obama accept McCain's town hall

challenge?

[WI_DEM]

23. why should he and why should McCain be praised for it? Bill is going out of his

way to give McCain an out and undermining our nominee. You may not find Bill's actions wrong, but many others do. Call it a difference of opinion.

[DefenseLawyer]

24. What's your point?

Seriously.

[BigDDem]

25. Why not just answer the question?

Seriously.

[DefenseLawyer]

28. So in your opinion McCain was right

to call for 200 town hall meetings or whatever it was, garner tons of free media in a setting that favored him and Obama was a coward for refusing to "comply" with McCain's most reasonable of requests? Is that what you are telling me? And you think Bill Clinton shares your opinion and is justified in pointing that out and framing it that way? And, if that is indeed your point (since you wouldn't tell me yourself, obviously I am assuming here)you, as an Obama supporter, think Clinton's remarks are not only justified but are helpful to Obama? Cocaine is a helluva drug.

[BigDDem]

30. I think Obama should have accepted.

He's smarter, he's right on the issues and he would have cleaned McCain's clock.
Just my opinion, I understand that you feel differently.

Have a good one!

[DefenseLawyer]

31. But he didn't accept

The question now isn't whether he should have or not. Your opinion on that or mine don't matter one bit. The question is whether Bill Clinton is helping Obama by pointing it out now and framing it in exactly the way the Mccain campaign has. You know it isn't helpful. A third grader knows it isn't helpful. Look, you can love Bill Clinton and be loyal to Bill Clinton til the end of time. More power to you. But defending this indefensible comment is impossible.

[BigDDem]

32. I realize you cant see past your hatred.

Hopefully you will be able to release it some day.
Have a good one!

[DefenseLawyer]

33. I don't hate anybody

That is a pretty lame response, frankly. If you could ever tell me how this is helpful to Obama, I am more than willing to listen. Just saying I don't understand because I am blinded by "hate" is ad hominem and evasive and downright silly. But hey, if you don't want to actually defend the comments, it's a free country.

[LibraLiz1973]

26. Because Bill Clinton is acting a damn fool.

When I see Jimmy & Al out talking about what a great guy McCain is, I will have plenty to say.

[BigDDem]

27. "Because Bill Clinton is acting a damn fool"

Why do you think Obama wants a "damn fool", campaigning for him?

[Forkboy]

29. We're all starting to wonder that.

[BigDDem]

34. Obama on Bill Clinton:

“I want him involved. He is a brilliant politician. He was a outstanding president. And so I want his help not only in campaigning but also in governing. And I’m confident that I’ll get that help.”


Is he wrong?