I'm writing to Hillary, telling her I'll NEVER vote for her if she doesn't straighten Bill out.

[gauguin57]

He needs to get on the Obama bandwagon NOW ... no more "McCain's a great guy, Sarah's a great gal." NO ... are you a Democrat or Mr. I Wanna Live In The White House In 2013.

It's mostly HIS fault Hillary's not the nominee ... his bullshit during the primary campaign (AND all his skeezy financial antics since he left the presidency -- selling is imprimatur to the highest Foundation bidder, hanging around with skeezy businessmen, not reporting where his donations come from, etc. etc. -- I could never have voted for Hillary, knowing what the Repugs would do with all that information. We'd have lost by a landslide. Worse than Ferraro-Zaccaro 1984.)

NOW, he's gonna ensure she'll NEVER be president ... because I will NEVER forgive Bill if he doesn't knock it off right now, and I will NEVER vote for Hillary for dogcatcher unless she sets Bill straight (or kicks him to the curb).

I have HAD it with this nonsense. We need him ON BOARD WITH OBAMA or SILENT ON THE ELECTION. You choose, Bill. If you can't support our Democratic candidate COMPLETELY, then go do your Foundation thing and STFU!

[lame54]

1. He was great on The Daily Show

[seabeyond]

5. lousy on view and another show, good on tds. then lousy since.

but i think the reason he was good on tds was stewart directed and guided him along in that exactly addressing this. clinton didnt really have a choice.

[DainBramaged]

2. Wow I am positive she will snap to it and do what you say!

:eyes:

[gauguin57]

6. Mock all you want.

Bill Clinton is full of SHIT, and this election is too important for him to be worrying about getting his wife elected in 2012. That's all this dude is about right now. His legacy is in jeopardy ... he can do all the "good works" he wants ... if he helps McCain get elected -- when it is VITAL that Obama be elected -- I will blame Bill Clinton equally for the shitstorm that will rain down upon this country.

[SIMPLYB1980]

3. LoL this is worse than the PBS poll. Get new material.

[gauguin57]

7. The PBS poll his history. Bill Clinton is out there ACTIVELY SCREWING US.

So there's a difference.

[SIMPLYB1980]

14. Say hey to Rush for me.

:rofl: :popcorn:

[gauguin57]

25. Go ahead ... keep your head in the sand about Bill's self-centeredness.

Let him keep going out there and telling the country how WONDERFUL John McCain and Sarah Palin are.

Oh brother. I can't believe some of you people.

[SIMPLYB1980]

26. Just keep bringing it, I needed more laughs this morning Dittohead.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :popcorn:

[seabeyond]

4. BUT you will never have opportunity to vote for her if obama doesnt lose. she knows

that

catch 22

[juno jones]

10. Hell if Obama loses

somehow I doubt we'll be voting for anyone come 2012. This is shaping up to be the endgame for fascism.

[gauguin57]

12. Absolutely. And then we can all send the Big Dog a thank-you note FOR that fascism.

Self-centered jerk.

[musicblind]

34. That is not true. She can run again in 2016. I think she legitimately wants Obama to win as do I.

I am perfectly satisfied and willing to wait to vote for Hillary in 2016. I think she'll make a great president then. Surely both Clintons realize how important it is to get Obama elected... even if they don't like him personally.

[cyberpj]

8. .

[Sodan]

9. Imagine you were Joe Sixpack

Not into politics at all.
But everytime Bill comes on - you're reminded of how much better off you were during his administration.
Bet you don't listen to all this tactic stuff - and just hear him say "I am for Obama!".

That's it. Everytime he's on - votes for Obama!!

[Lilith Velkor]

27. Wow perspective

I wish people here would pull their heads out of Tweety's butt and realize this.

Welcome to DU :hi:

[gauguin57]

37. Sorry, but I don't think that's what Joe Sixpack is thinking , at all.

And who can hear Bill saying, "I am for Obama," when he's telling us all the wonderful things about McCain and Palin?

[bvar22]

40. Joe Six Pack watches FAUX News, and Bill's smug mug is ALL OVER...

...Faux saying that McCain did the right thing, and Obama didn't "comply".

[Naturalist]

11. That is sexist

What if the situation was reversed. Yep, it would be OK for someone to send Bill a email stating that he had better straighten her out.

[gauguin57]

17. If Hillary were being as big an asshole as Bill is being right now, you're damn right I'd email Bill

Ok. I've vented. I'm done. Nothing I can do about Bill's damned mouth.

He'll do what he wants. Always has, always will. Damn the consequences to our party and our country.

[Yes We Did]

13. If she couldn't control him in the 90's...

And she couldn't control him during the primaries...

What makes you think she has ANY control over him now?

[jobycom]

15. And I'm never sleeping with Angelina again if she doesn't teach Brad to yodel.

What the goddamn fuck do Bill Clinton's actions and opinions have to do with Hillary Clinton? Oh, I forgot, a woman does not exist outside of her relationship to a man. "Oh, noes, there's no sexism here at DU..." Good God. Surely some Fundie church somewhere would welcome you with open arms, and they wouldn't vote for Clinton, either.

[gauguin57]

23. Excuse me, but Bill's goddamn behavior since he left the White House is why a Hillary candidancy

would have been sunk. Sorry, but this is America, and here, the GOP gets ahold of all your spouse's smelly financial dealings (don't believe it of Bill if you want to keep your head in the goddamned sand -- but I've read enough reports by enough journalists I respect to KNOW that the Big Dog has been basically selling his name to the highest bidder, helping skeevy businessmen get contracts from skeevy foreign leaders, etc.)

Hillary could have been the greatest candidate on the planet, and Bill would have still sunk her in the general election.

What the fuck does a spouse have to do with the candidate? PLEASE, you can't be that naive, having lived through several presidental campaigns in this country.

[jobycom]

28. Wow.

I'll bookmark this one for the next time someone asks for examples of sexism on DU...

[gauguin57]

33. Wow. I'll bookmark THIS post when I want an example of people on DU

hearing only what they want to hear.

See post 32.

[WI_DEM]

16. I really don't blame Hillary for Bill's behavior. She wasn't to blame for Monica either.

[gauguin57]

20. I don't blame her either. But she needs to realize that what Bill is doing right now affects her.

And have a nice little talk with hubby.

[Beausoir]

18. Grow up.

[jberryhill]

19. And if you wrote to my wife telling her to "straighten out your husband", she'd tell you to get bent

[jobycom]

29. Amen. nt

[musicblind]

35. Right on!

Women are not appendages of their husbands.

[gauguin57]

36. Good lord. I'm a woman. Can you actually believe a DUer, and a woman, would mean that?

Didn't mean that. AT ALL.

Political partnership. Hillary's political influence with him. That's all I'm talking.

[Lerkfish]

21. Hillary is doing her part just fine. The problem is Bill is backhanding his support

faint praise for Obama, more like: oh yeah, I almost forgot, Obama will be a good president.

I don't blame Hillary for this, I think Bill is untrainable, he speaks what's in his mind, instead of what would be best.

[BigDDem]

22. I'm sure as soon as she gets your message, she'll be all over it

:rofl:

[hughee99]

24. Hillary has not "straightened out" Bill in many years. n/t

:hide:

[murbley40]

30. I agree!!

[CampLo]

31. Bill is on the Obama wagon

in the smartest most pragmatic way possible, by not insulting and belittling the opponent, and drive the moderates away. Hell, some of the ignorant putrid venom being spewed on here are driving democrats away. He won 2 presidential elections and won them convincingly. I think he might know a little bit about running a winning campaign.

[gauguin57]

32. Ummm ... you people DO know that when I say "straighten him out," I'm not talking about

her going after him with a rolling pin or frying pan, with her hair in curlers, right?

I'm talking about the fact that they are the ultimate political partnership. I can't imagine him listening to anyone else's opinion he values as highly as hers (unless, perhaps, it's Chelsea's). When it comes to politics, I see them as one entity TO THE EXTENT that they support each other's policies and candidacies (well, I did, until this primary campaign. Oh Bill. Oh dear.)

He's had his chance to be president. His behavior and finances have affected her ability to be president. Sad fact, but true.

She needs to TALK to him about what SOME of us (those of us who don't still naively follow Bill to the ends of the earth) are concerned about ... that his support of Obama is so tepid as to be WORTHLESS, or, worse yet, DAMAGING.

[AtomicKitten]

38. Clinton used up his "last chance" long ago.

I'm done with both of them and will exercise my right of free speech by donating to any primary challenger to that mess.

[ClarkUSA]

39. Doncha know? Hillary + Bill = Plausible Deniability for Hillary 2012

Their motto: "Clintons First"