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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:23 PM
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Barney Frank on CNBC just now.. McCain throwing monkey wrench into
tentative agreements.

He said that the House Repub caucas had been working with them. Baucas then left and called back later saying he had a "few other issues" apparently raised by McCain.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:24 PM
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1. Cripes, he's a walking disaster. nt
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:25 PM
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4. It's a desperate bid to have SOMETHING...
ANYTHING to do with the plan.. Johnny come lately won't let them proceed without him..
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:28 PM
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14. Or at least stall it until it's too late to show up at the debated tomorrow.
I'm amazed that Barney Frank's comments have been reported - though I suppose "our" corporate media's parent companies are anxious to get the deal done.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:24 PM
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2. They should make it seem like he is making things worst instead of helping
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:26 PM
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9. he IS.. . . .what "make it seem"
He raised new issues with Baucas after the meeting.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:25 PM
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3. This is a mess. And McCain's involvement will only make it worse. nt
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:28 PM
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13. McWorse!!
Wow - just Wow!!
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:25 PM
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5. McCain Needs To Save Money! If The Deal Is Reached, He Has To Spend!
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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:29 PM
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15. If a deal is reached, he'll have to debate!
And so will snowjob-square glasses.


:bounce:
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:25 PM
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6. Go get 'em Barney!
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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:25 PM
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7. No vote and NO DEAL without the Repubs...
Hold 'em to the fire, Barney!:grr:

B-)
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:26 PM
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8. Dems should now say, "Fine, no bailout." and adjourn Congress
LEt McCain take the blame for that.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:34 PM
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29. They should adjourn the Senate until Monday...n/t
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:26 PM
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10. This is UNBELIEVABLE! McCain is MESSING IT UP EVEN MORE??!!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:27 PM
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12. This was a "catch him of the fly" interview.. not a
"Come out to thePodium and announce" tv moment
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:31 PM
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23. putting country first
:-(
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nickyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:33 PM
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28. "unbelievable"? I think not. The vision of debating Senator Barack Obama in a mere matter of
HOURS is spurring this man to new heights of panic and fear. Oh, and knee-jerk, clumsy, embarrassing actions.

Yep, I believe it.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:27 PM
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11. McCain will end up getting blamed then.....
n/t
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:29 PM
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16. There was rare bipartisan support in Congress
to unite and get the bill passed before. Now McCain is walking in saying he is above politics. Bullshit, they have no shame
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:31 PM
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24. The only "official" sticking point (up to this point)
Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 01:32 PM by annabanana
was about individual bankruptcies
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blueclown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:29 PM
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17. Congressional Dems should delay this deal until Friday night.
Let McCain remain in limbo, and then sign the legislation when Obama is all by himself in Mississippi conducting his very own townhall event with Jim Lehrer.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:29 PM
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18. McPanic is probably stomping his feet and demanding that the deal be named after him
something like "John McCain's Patriotic Save The U.S. From Financial Distaster Plan"
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:32 PM
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26. lol! . . . . . . . n/t
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:30 PM
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19. Shit....
the last thing that McCain wants is a deal to go down before Friday night...
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:30 PM
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20. Walk out NOW!
DO NOT DEAL WITH TERRORIST!
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TooBigaTent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:30 PM
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21. Hey. If InSane's stupidity winds up delaying or destroying the sell-out, I will have ONE
thing to thank him for.
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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:30 PM
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22. He just dumped the chess board
What a hoser.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:32 PM
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25. Is he waving his arms around?
If so, he must be real excited.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:43 PM
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31. Who, Barney?. . no. He was enroute to somewhere else and
looked a little preoccupied.. (no arm waving, he wasn't even sure what Baucas had heard that McCain wanted)
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:48 PM
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32. I meant John McCain. My post wasn't clear.
As punishment, I'm donating to Obama again.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:32 PM
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27. A Bailout We Don't Need
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/24/AR2008092403033.html?nav=slate

By James K. Galbraith
Thursday, September 25, 2008

Now that all five big investment banks -- Bear Stearns, Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley -- have disappeared or morphed into regular banks, a question arises.

The point of the bailout is to buy assets that are illiquid but not worthless. But regular banks hold assets like that all the time. They're called "loans."

With banks, runs occur only when depositors panic, because they fear the loan book is bad. Deposit insurance takes care of that. So why not eliminate the pointless $100,000 cap on federal deposit insurance and go take inventory? If a bank is solvent, money market funds would flow in, eliminating the need to insure those separately. If it isn't, the FDIC has the bridge bank facility to take care of that.


Next, put half a trillion dollars into the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. fund -- a cosmetic gesture -- and as much money into that agency and the FBI as is needed for examiners, auditors and investigators. Keep $200 billion or more in reserve, so the Treasury can recapitalize banks by buying preferred shares if necessary -- as Warren Buffett did this week with Goldman Sachs. Review the situation in three months, when Congress comes back. Hedge funds should be left on their own. You can't save everyone, and those investors aren't poor.

With this solution, the systemic financial threat should go away.

...snip...
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:41 PM
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30. If Bush says we need it... we don't!
Why the hell is anyone even entertaining ideas Chucklenuts has strapped his horses to? This is the man who lied us into war. This is the man who broke our military. This is the man who promised everyone they could afford a home and made sure there was no oversight as to how those loans were made. He's broken everything he's touched, and Congress is still letting him present his plans to fix things.

I think this stinks.

Let them fail. Let venture capitalists start small mortgage companies and private banks with their assets. Set interest limits and oversight. Let the process begin anew.
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