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icanthelpit Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:01 PM
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Pollster says election could end in landslide (Zogby)
http://democratandchronicle.com/article/20080925/NEWS01/80925009


Zogby predicting a landslide for McCain

Pollster says election could end in landslide
Jill Terreri • Staff writer • September 25, 2008


What’s this?

The presidential election might be a tight race now, but one of the country’s top pollsters thinks the race will end in an electoral landslide.

John Zogby, president of Zogby International, told a group of businesspeople today that it’s up to Democratic Sen. Barack Obama to convince voters to go with him. If he’s not successful, the country will likely vote for “a comfortable old shoe”, that being Republican Sen. John McCain.

Despite the books Obama has written, Americans are still asking, “Who are you, where are you from?,” Zogby said.

Zogby spoke at the College at Brockport’s Business Briefings breakfast series at the college’s MetroCenter campus on St. Paul Street. He was promoting his new book, The Way We’ll Be: The Zogby Report of the Transformation of the American Dream.

JTERRERI@DemocratandChronicle.com
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Whalestoe Donating Member (928 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:02 PM
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1. ROFL!
Zogby...
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YEM Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:03 PM
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2. He is consistantly wrong. Look at the last two elections.
His polls are horrid.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:03 PM
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Is he REALLY this stupid?? Does he REALLY think he has any crediblity left??
Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 04:04 PM by msallied
Where is the "Gag me with a goddamn fork" emoticon?
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:05 PM
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8. LOL!! Use the PUKE button
:puke:
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:11 PM
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23. I will have to use several to truly express my disgust.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:03 PM
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3. I call BS we do not want “a comfortable War Monger”
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:03 PM
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4. Is Zogby totally cut off from the real world?
Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 04:04 PM by Drunken Irishman
Then again, he thought Kerry would win in a landslide in '04, so...
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:11 PM
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26. He Also Picked Dean To Win The Nomination In 04 Before A Vote Was Cast
In his defense that wasn't the worst call a person could make; at the time...
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:04 PM
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5. I read that headline and assumed it was meant as a landslide for Obama, and was going to warn about
getting to cocky and complacent. This MUST be a joke.
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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:04 PM
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6. It will be a landslide .. But in Favor of Barrack Obama.
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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:04 PM
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7. Right- Marist has Obama by 5% with his supporters much firmer than McCain's
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GrizzlyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:05 PM
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9. Zogby is crazier than a shithouse rat
His polls are shit. His theories are shit. He is shit on a Townhouse cracker.
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Eyes_wide_ open Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:26 PM
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41. no wonder he likes McInsane and the Batshit Crazy Lady

peas in a pod and all that.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:05 PM
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10. So, does he base this assertion on his "interactive poll"?
:rofl:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:05 PM
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11. Thanks for your concern
I smell a pizza coming.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:05 PM
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12. Welcome to DU! (and LOL and your first OP!)

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:15 PM
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28. The Ironic Thing Is That The Poster Thinks He Scored A Coup
Like we're supposed to be scared by some half assed pollster making a half baked prediction...
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icanthelpit Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:34 PM
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44. Or you can bury your head in the sand
and post only "good" polls and predictions and ignore all others.

Earth to sketptics, polls can and are easily skewed. Pollsters can spin results anyway they want.

Of course those claiming that Zogby is trying to damage Obama because of his good relationship with the Clintons can think that. But I doubt he is trying to sabotage Obama so Hillary can run in 2012.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:41 PM
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46.  What planet are you from?
Zo(m)by made it his raison d'etre to torpedo Hillary's campaign with his bogus polls that suggested she couldn't win a nat'l election...

Save your lectures for the < 100 I Q set like Sarah Palin...
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:48 PM
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54. Try full baked and full assed....nt
Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 04:49 PM by MattBaggins
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Godhumor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:06 PM
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13. As a SUNY Brockport grad, I wince at this
Does Zogby really believe one month will turn deep blue states pink? Because, frankly, there is no hope for a landslide on McCain's side (I'm beginning to think there is hope for one for the good guys, though.).
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:19 PM
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30. This Nation Is So Polarized
Just having a R or D after your name is probably going to get a candidate to 200 E C Voutes unless he or she is certifiably insane...
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Eyes_wide_ open Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:34 PM
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43. how fortunate for us
Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 04:34 PM by Eyes_wide_ open
that both gramps and musilini are certifiable
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Rebellious Republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:06 PM
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14. The fix is in.
There is no way no how that a legitimate election would have that out come. The Neocon Corporate Fascists are prepping us for another fixed election.

:argh:

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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:07 PM
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15. He predicted a "comfortable Kerry win" last time
I feel more secure than ever about Obama's victory now.
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GOPNotForMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:09 PM
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19. Exactly my thinking!
I still remember those damn exit polls that gave me a very false sense of hope in 2004. Zogby = incompetent.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:48 PM
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53. He Released His Final Poll (After) People Started Voting And Still Was Wrong
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:08 PM
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16. You son of a bitch Zogby...
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:09 PM
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17. Some Random Points
1) You joined DU to tell us that...

2) When do I get my "you were right" posts for calling out Zo(m)by as a charlatan and being crucified by some here for making that cogent observation?

3) Zo(m)by's an ass hat; whether he was pimpin polls for Rush Limbaugh or trying to fix the polls to make it look like Kerry would win...

4)This nation is so polarized; just having a D or R after your name is going to get you a nice share of pop and E C votes...

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Eyes_wide_ open Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:40 PM
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45. Ooops wrong place
Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 04:42 PM by Eyes_wide_ open
sorry
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:09 PM
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18. Skinner should've added a 'Douchus Maximus' button....
:rofl:
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:10 PM
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20. Maybe he's using reverse psychology
Because that's the only thing that would explain that craziness.
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:10 PM
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21. This is insane, a joke, or a setup for theft...
But as you all have said, zogby has little credibility left.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:11 PM
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22. how have you managed to stay for 10 days?
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:11 PM
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24. Zogby, you know that diarrhea you've been having?
You thought it was from something you ate?

It was obviously you crapping your brains out.

No way in hell is this going to be a landslide for John "the fundamentals of the economy are sound" McSame. No f*cking way!
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:11 PM
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25. I don't recall taking one Zogby poll that asks me if I think I know enough about Obama
what the hell is he talking about??
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Politics_Guy25 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:14 PM
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27. Welcome to DU!!!!!!!
Enjoy your stay.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:17 PM
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29. He also predicted Kerry would win. McCain isn't a "comfortable old shoe"
he's an old smelly shoe with gaping holes and stones inside.
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pirate_satellite Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 07:08 PM
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57. Get Seinfeld
Maybe Jerry Seinfeld can be enlisted to help sell McCain to the American public as a "comfortable old shoe" now that Microsoft has let him go.

(But Seinfeld's a Democrat!)
(Yes, but he also used a Mac on television. Nothing's sacred, get with the program.)
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 08:38 PM
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59. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:19 PM
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31. Great.. i'll put this next to his NH perdiction.. asshat.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:19 PM
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32. Obama is 2 pts up in NC today
so ummm, WHUT?

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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:20 PM
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33. He isn't even talking about polling data.
Looks to me like he is just making the brilliant observation that if "Obama is not successful" then McCain will win. Really? Thanks for posting this worthless tripe.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:21 PM
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37. You know, that's right.
What an idiot.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:23 PM
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40. "if "Obama is not successful" then McCain will win"
That's a tautology...

If we go out in the rain we will all get wet...
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:20 PM
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34. I smell a rat
I smell a rat. It has that distinctive and all-too-familiar odor of the species Republicanus floridius. We got a nasty bite from this pest four years ago and never quite recovered. Symptoms of a long-term infection are becoming distressingly apparent.


more...


http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1115-20.htm
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:21 PM
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35. OMG! We're screwn. I just got hit by a piece of falling sky.
I think I have a concussion.
Or a contusion.
Maybe it's a owie.
A boo-boo?
Anyway, I need a hug.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:21 PM
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36. lol. now you freepers are loving you some Zogby?
Zogby is one of the more disreputable pollsters out there. He's fringe, freepy.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:22 PM
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38. Millions of people aren't registering to vote for McCain.
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:22 PM
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39. Oh noes. We are so screwn. I'm series.
:rofl:

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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:32 PM
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42. Arrrrgghhhh!!
Somehow I knew that's what this post was going to say....IF WE the PEOPLE are that F**KING stupid as voters...Then we deserve whateverthehell we end up with...GEEZE!! wb
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Eyes_wide_ open Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:43 PM
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47. LOL Get real ... you're not even trying sweetie
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mokawanis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:44 PM
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48. you can't help it
have another glass of kool-aid, asshat.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:45 PM
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49. that's good, he said Kerry was going to win in '04
I am glad though that I can give threads like this "red" now.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:46 PM
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50. If you believe that, I've got a bridge to nowhere to sell you...
:rofl:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:46 PM
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51. If Obama doesn't win...McCain will!! Brilliant insight.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:46 PM
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52. CLICK
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samuraiguppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:49 PM
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55. bookmarked.
so that after the election when Obama wins in a landslide--we can make all these idiots eat crow.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:49 PM
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56. Funny stuff! Thanks for the laugh!
I have a feeling YOU won't be laughing, though, on November 5th.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 07:09 PM
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58. Zogby also thought Kerry would win in a landslide last cycle
He's lost all credibility as a pollster.
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