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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:25 PM
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just saw the 'melanoma' ad against mccain...it really made me uncomfortable
Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 04:26 PM by spanone
i know a candidates health is a relevant issue, but it made me squirm.

it looks like a 527

i rather they spend money exposing the keating five....that was a matter of choice

:puke:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:26 PM
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1. BraveNewPAC made it. I think it's a valid concern, but it was unnerving. nt
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:27 PM
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4. i agree it's valid, but.........i know
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:26 PM
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2. I wish he would be honest about it
but if he were honest about it, I don't think he would be running for president. There is no way he is expected to live for 4 years.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:26 PM
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3. I saw it on MSNBC early this morning, I think it is a valid question and it is supposed to make you
squirm
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:27 PM
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5. yeah, me too....
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:29 PM
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9. I agree. The words of the commercial are fine, but not the images.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:28 PM
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6. It's a PAC. "Democracy for America"
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:28 PM
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7. You beat me.. and it came from DFA... AND it will work well with the
retirees in Florida.. Those close up picks of McCain bandaged are scary.. I don't know that melanoma is the deadliest cancer, it seems to be a more common cancer.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:34 PM
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19. Melanoma is both widespread and very serious. It's curable, but once it spreads, it's
Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 04:35 PM by wienerdoggie
not often a good long-term outcome. Not an almost-automatic death sentence like pancreatic cancer, but still often fatal. Other forms of skin cancer are almost never lethal. Four times battling melanoma is not a good record to have.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:29 PM
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8. I'm glad a 527 is going to the Dark Side here
because O can't do it and stay viable.
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:46 PM
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32. Agreed. n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:30 PM
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10. i think it is HUGELY relevent and should be taken somberly. a fact. and then there is palin
i say good for them
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:46 PM
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33. Amen. n/t
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:30 PM
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11. on the other hand...
McCain is clearly too irresponsible to step down because of his health problems.
The GOP is clearly too irresponsible to ask him to step down, or to vote against him.
Palin is clearly too irresponsible to decline the VP, which she's clearly unqualified for and yet has an unusually high likelihood of ending up as president due to McCain's health and age.

Somebody has to bring this up. If not the Obama campaign, it won't be anybody else.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:32 PM
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16. i think everyone knows what he's been thru...and keeping pace with the campain is unbelievable
i understand it's a valid point but i don't think an ad like this wins many fans....it makes him look all the stonger to the low percenters
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:39 PM
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23. why do you think "everyone knows what he's been thru"? Most people are uniformed
both about McCain's health issues and the fact he never released his health records
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:40 PM
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24. It's not to win fans. It's to inform the public, and I don't believe many
understand the seriousness of the form of cancer he had. A sizeable portion of people in a poll didn't know Cheney was VP, so I doubt a lot of the public understands just how bad melanoma can be, or that McCain battled it repeatedly and recently.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:30 PM
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12. I didn't care for it either. But....
Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 04:33 PM by Kristi1696
I think that it's one of those ads that you're going to hate, but it will stick with you. It will make people think about an issue the media is certainly not going to raise themselves. A necessary evil, perhaps?
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southern_dem Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:32 PM
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Yeah
That's my thinking too. I cringe, but at the same time it is very valid. God forbid, he get elected and something bad happens. The only thing worse than President McCain is President Palin.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:31 PM
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13. I wish we had known about Reagan's Alzheimers, so I want to know if
McBombBomb's many mistakes, loss of facts and scrambling of words is just carelessness, or symptomatic of a more serious condition.

Since he has had melanoma recurrences and has chosen a RECKLESS CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALIST as his VP, I really want to know about his health.

It is a serious concern and I AM VERY GLAD THE 527 ISSUED THE AD.


Keating 5 is already being discussed. Johnny's first bailout. At least 3 of the 5 were Democrats.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:31 PM
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14. My 75 yo mom called me a few minutes ago and she said it SCARED her...
she immediately thought about the fact that Palin would be "one heartbeat away" from the Presidency.

So it is an uncomfortable commercial - it works, it makes people think hard, at least that's what it did for my mom.

OT - the wolf ad is the same way. Very hard to watch and shocking but effective and sends the message home.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:34 PM
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18. that's good. maybe uncomfortable is good.
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vstephane Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:36 PM
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21. If that's the case, it better be aired before the VP debate.
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:38 PM
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22. It's well-timed.
People are asking questions about Palin - this ad puts that risk in clear focus. It's unsettling, and it should be.
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:42 PM
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30. self-delete. Posted in the wrong place.
Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 05:43 PM by 1Hippiechick
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:32 PM
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15. Makes people think twice about Palin
They should run those ads around the time of the VP debates - trust me, it'll be very effective after she comes off like a doofus (or finds an excuse to not show up)
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:33 PM
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17. It was the truth about McCain's melanoma prognosis by medical experts - I enjoyed it.
Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 04:34 PM by ClarkUSA
It's refreshing to watch relevant ads for once. Or do you want people to forget that Palin is a 3 mm. melanoma away from the White House?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:35 PM
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20. i didn't enjoy it, but to answer you question, no.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:41 PM
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25. President Palin.... 'nuff said.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:44 PM
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26. People need to be shaken out of their "Mavericks" trance
and made to realize just how likely it is that the ridiculously unqualified Palin could step into the Presidency. Reality bites.

Thanks to the McCain campaign's efforts to keep her under wraps, far too few people know how extreme, corrupt and incompetent she really is. But the more she speaks, the more people will come to realize that McCain's health is an issue.
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:48 PM
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35. Mavrick - the sign at the convention read "Mavrick" LOL I guess McCain is the Mavrick Moran. n/t
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:27 PM
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27. Yes, they should drop this ad. It only states what most already know really.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:38 PM
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28. Ok mom calls me again with a complaint about the ad (my mom's a trip)
She uses closed captioning due to moderate hearing loss.

She said all the other Obama ads have closed captioning options available but this one doesn't. She repeated she thought the ad was extremely effective but could be even more so if they added some CC to it. I told her that this isn't an Obama ad, it's a PAC and he has no control over how they roll.

I don't know if the 527s will respond to an email with her comment but I'll definitely send them the suggestion to make her happy.

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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:39 PM
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29. Haven't seen it but don't like the idea one bit
Not cool. We can beat McCain on the issues, there is no reason to go there.
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:45 PM
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31. Why all the concern? MANY of us have been waiting for the gloves to come off - be it Obama or a PAC
If the ad is effective, why not use it? It certainly isn't like the outright boldface lies that McCain and company have been smearing Obama with for 18 months.

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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:52 PM
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36. If the stupid Corpwhoremedia won't go there, someone needs to. I welcome the ads.
We're going into the home stretch and negative work but like you said, these aren't lies - this is the cold hard truth. Huge difference!

If the interviews with Charlie Gibson didn't do it, then the ones with Katie Couric really should have opened some eyes.

Enter 527 to connect the dots.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:46 PM
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34. I haven't seen it...but let's face it, the reviews are in on Sarah Palin.
And more and more people are not liking what they see.

That ad may be uncomfortable to watch...but anything about McCain's health needs to be talked about.
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