Invisibility is no longer an option...

[vaberella]

This is in no way a profound post of any kind. Not like the ones I've seen this past week and especially tonight by a OP of the link below listed. I felt by the OP's post a need to continue on that path of deeper thinking on the debate.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7226200#7227953

If you haven't read it, I recommend it.

It was the last statement that caught my attention when I connected it to the whole event.

It’s about Respect. It’s about Hope and the Future of a nation. It’s about the struggle for Human Dignity throughout the ages.

It is, most of all, about Equality.

I fully agree with the OP it's about all these and not to cliche a moment but I saw it represented the struggle of the people versus the Old Ways/Unilateral Government of oppression we've been living under for the last 8 years.

There are of course many people who would debate me on the idea of oppression. When I speak, I'm not necessarily speaking on public beatings and lynchings. I'm speaking on the new forms of those the scare tactics, ideology of fear (which was seen on Wednesday with Bush's speech to the American people). The ignorance of a people's cries to end the war, to build and invest in US infrastructure---this is what I refer to as oppression.

Friday Nights debate had Obama as the voice of the people, so to speak. He was the people and he was speaking on what we want for the future. While we were being ignored as per usual by old school government that McCain represents. The idea of, "Maybe if we give them crumbs they'll be happy." Or, "If we ignore them long enough; then we won't hear them and they'll disappear."

The way McCain had his back to Obama was the way I felt the government for the last 8 years have had their backs to us. We make our claims, they shut us down with hymns of what was. They quote loud and strong in the omnious voice of Alexander the Great, Henry the VIII, Washington, Lincoln, and Ted Roosevelt---nearly even God itself on what would have happened to us without their timely save.

The scene was so juxtaposed to how we are now in the nation it's staggering and breath taking to be hold. The voice of the people speaks of reason, but we don't speak of knowledge or understanding. The voice of the people may discuss the points, but we are over shadowed on a whole by louder and more aggressive voices of power.

However, what becomes of interest is the fact that for the 18 million cracks HRC has made for women (bless her unto eternity for that) Obama with HRC's support and the Dem's support and infinitely and forever our support he was able to break that barrier of ignorance. No longer can the government really ignore our needs and wants. What we aspire to achieve...

Sure at times we may disagree with Obama on certain aspects, overall the opportunity is still there though to fight for our cause and expect a chance of change. With Bush and definitely McCain the idea of hope for change wouldn't even be a thought. I felt for that moment we made ourselves heard when Obama won the debate.

At this point, invisibility is no longer an option and Obama (in a small part) and this election has made known that the American people are no longer to be an ignorant petulant and problematic child. We are to be respected, we demand respect, we demand equality, we demand to be heard and THEY have no right WE do not give them.

[Egnever]

1. THEY have no right WE do not give them.

I like it.

[vaberella]

2. De Nada. I'm pro-citizenry!! ^_^

[BrklynLiberal]

3. Well said.

:thumbsup: :hi:

[Poseidan]

4. The public should be united and organized politically.

It is good the people are petitioning government for a redress of grievances. But please bear in mind, only peaceable assembly is legal. The government retains the right to use force in detaining violent assemblies.

Organize, assemble, petition, but do so peaceably.

[vaberella]

5. I'm not advocating violence.

Hence the reason I saw Obama as the voice of the people who unite peaceably for change. He is aware and has always stated that he is in service to us and was hired to voice our needs. He knows this. This is why in regards to FISA he directly addressed our fears and concerns and made a statement of his position and the reasons behind it. Some may not have agreed, others swayed, and others agreed in his support knowing he wouldn't directly aim to harm the people he's fighting for. That being said, the government is hired by us to represent us, when they are not doing their job WE as an organized body have the right to demand their resignation.

We should be able to hold them accountable because the laws are not for a few but for all. If we are oppressed we have, with enough evidence, the right to imprison our oppressor. I find that for once large government is being minimized----that the PEOPLE have finally broken that mold.

[Tigress DEM]

6. Shouldn't WE tell the Chimperor wannabe that his "invisible clothes" are as substantial as his VP

[No Elephants]

7. I have to wonder. I have to. Would McCain have treated any other candidate for the Presidency that

way? Did he treat Bush that way, even after the despicable push polling of Bush's campaign?

And how stupid was McCain to put that question in my mind by acting like a spoiled four year old immediately post-tantrum?

What did he think he was going to gain by that? Did he think at all? If not, is he temperamentally fit to be President? No, I know he isn't, but others need to be asking these questions aloud on TV and radio. People need to be thinking about these things.