I am quite disturbed by McCain's unwillingness to acknowledge Barack's presence eye to eye

[BigBearJohn]

He reminded me of stuffy old men I have known with their DISMISSIVE
attitudes, not even giving you the courtesy of looking at you.
On a most basic level, they were showing their ultimate lack of
respect for you by not even acknowledging your existence...
as if to say, "you mean nothing -- you don't even exist....
as a matter of fact, you're not even worth looking at."

I may be making more of this than is there, but it sure seemed to me like
he was trying -- in a passive/aggressive manner -- to show his 'inherent' superiority
to Barack by not even looking at him. I have had employers use this
technique to belittle the employee and "keep them in their place."

It kind of reminded me of being back on the schoolyard playground when
the bully would talk shit about you, completely ignoring your presence,
trying to get the whole group of kids to ignore you too and laugh at you to boot.

Who was it that said, "never trust a man who doesn't look you in the
eyes when talking to you"?

McCain REALLY disgusts me. He is not a gentleman and he is NOT a statesman.

ptui

[FrenchieCat]

1. Actually, I don't really give a shit about his acknowledgement

of Barack Obama....and to some degree, I don't think that Barack gives a shit either. If he did, it would mean that McCain's lowliness would have hit a nerve....and personally, I don't think it did.

That's what I find so fascinating sometimes; we give this McCain much more credit for impacting shit that he doesn't have any control over.

The only thing that is a disconcerning to me is that people act like John McCain suceeded at doing something to Barack...when it is clear that it is John McCain who is less than a man.

[BigBearJohn]

7. I understand your point, but McCain was ignoring Barack for effect. Trying to show superiority.

At least that's how I saw it.

I'm sure Barack could give two shits about
what McCain thinks or how he acts. However, I was
more concerned about how the public viewed
Barack's being dismissed by McCain.

[FrenchieCat]

9. And?

What's new to a Black man about that?

As a Black person, I just want it to be clear that Barack is not the victim of this ignorance; John McCain is.

Barack ain't being dismissed anywhere but in McCain's mind.....and that is a place that I don't need to think about.

You are actually helping McCain make the impact that he seeked. That to me is an insult.

[BigBearJohn]

10. I was simply pointing out the technique McCain is using. If you're insulted by that, it wasn't my

intention. You might consider that I am on YOUR side.
I am FOR Obama and it bothers me when McCain tries to
dismiss him and then doesn't get called on the carpet
for it. I'm calling him out on it. He is not going
to get away with it.

[Zenmaster]

2. You are overthinking it. He was being a coward.

He couldn't look Obama in the eye because he knows he's been running a piece of shit campaign, and spreading and encouraging lies about Obama in the hopes of getting ahead. He doesn't have the balls to do that to somebody he has to actually look in the eye.

Its a hell of a lot easier to lie about somebody you never have to actually talk to than somebody you meet face to face. He's just avoiding that face to face meeting.

McSpain doesn't think he's better than Obama. He's a coward.

[BigBearJohn]

8. Maybe he was afraid that if he looked at Barack in the face, he would get nervous and lose his train

of thought.

[patomime]

3. ...your last line hit it...

he is not a gentleman and he is not a statesman.

Now, maybe others know he does not have the temperment to lead this country.

[VolcanoJen]

4. There are a lot of answers in that WaPo article about the White House Bailout Summit

No wonder Old McGrumpy was so hacked off. :-) This article is absolutely riveting. McCain got punked in the midst of his McStunt, and his simmering anger could barely be contained on Friday.

Relevant passages, emphasis mine:

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/26/AR2008092603957_pf.html

No, Boehner replied, he just wanted his members to have a voice. Obama then jumped in to turn the question on his rival: "What do you think of the plan, John?" he asked repeatedly. McCain did not answer.

One Republican in the room said it was clear that the Democrats came into the meeting with a "game plan" aimed at forcing McCain to choose between the administration and House Republicans. "They had taken McCain's request for a meeting and trumped it," said this source.

Congressional aides from both parties were standing in the lobby of the West Wing, unaware of the discord inside the Cabinet room, when McCain emerged alone, shook the hands of the Marines at the door and left. The aides were baffled. The plan had been for a bipartisan appearance before the media, featuring McCain, Obama and at least a firm statement in favor of intervention. Now, one of the leading men was gone.

The rest of the actors poured out of the room still highly agitated. Democrats clustered in the hall between the lobby and the Oval Office, pressing Bachus to explain what had happened to the deal. The Democrats discussed whether to go before the cameras waiting in front of the White House, but Obama refused. Without McCain next to him, he said, he would be skewered for using the White House as a backdrop. As the talk grew louder, Obama asked if they could duck into a room, and back they went to the ornate, windowless Roosevelt Room.

[BigBearJohn]

6. Thanks for that.

[Binka]

5. John Is Mentally Unhinged ...Malignant Narcissist Are Very Fucked Up

The dude is fucking nuts. A true sociopath. I lived with one for seven years and at the end I chewed my leg off to get away. I see EVERYTHING in my abusive relationship in McLame. He is a dangerous and fucking twisted asshole.