Democrats should boycott Fox. Disgusting Chris Wallace talking over John Kerry

[Thrill]

That wimp Lindsey Graham doesn't have to say anything because Wallace is doing the arguing for him.

[nomorewhopper]

1. i really doubt that many of us in here are watching fox news :)

i love john kerry!

[jefferson_dem]

2. I watched the whole segment and must respectfully disagree.

Kerry was given adequate opportunity to make his case and did a great job surrogating for Obama-Biden. To my surprise, Wallace was equally tough (or not) on Kerry and Graham.

It was also obvious that the repugs have nearly nothing to work with. At one point, Graham had to concede "Ok, Sen. Obama did a good job at the debate and I give him credit."

[Thrill]

3. He was totally disrespectful to Kerry

when Kerry was saying he said in the 04 debates that the US should be in talks with N. Korea. He was pretty much calling him a liar

[godai]

5. Kerry's answers are verbose. That's why he ends up getting cutoff.

An effective surrogate needs to make the point clearly and to the point. Kerry makes good points but he doesn't know when to stop. He also got into a disagreement with Wallace when he brought up his (Kerry's) position in the past regarding N. Korea. Waste of valuable time, when the topic should be Obama.

Kerry did OK on Faux but more importantly, Graham made the point we're going to be hearing a lot tomorrow, McCain 'saved the day' with the bailout bill. Untrue but that's the talking point.

[Mass]

10. The point about N. Korea was not moot. It was a perfect example of why Bush and

McCain are wrong. This is exactly why Wallace cut him, because he knew the point was relevant. Kerry went on and made the point FOR Obama.

Graham had nothing but talking points to make and the talking point about save the day was stupid for everybody (as was made clear).

[fedupinBushcountry]

13. Verbose?

The only one I saw who was wordy with nonsense was Graham. Of course we all know that the repubs are going to use that "saved the day" we knew that 2 days ago.

BTW Wallace interruped Kerry within a couple of seconds, so I really don't know what the heck you are talking about. Wallace is a RW tool, Kerry handled him well and got very important points out, like good earmarks compared to bad earmarks $150,000 for Community Centers compared to #3 million for Palin's DNA for seals.

[karynnj]

16. It was not off topic

It was Bush/McCain position versus Obama/Kerry one. To drop the NK issue when Wallace was against it would have been to concede the entire point - when in fact Kerry was right. That would have hurt Obama.

Kerry's answers did many things
1) Hit McCain's earmark obsession which is one of his few claims to being a reformer
2) Backed Obama well referring to Obama's point on who to speak to in Iran. Someone needed to do this - Obams could do little in the debate other than elude to it.
3) Kerry made a more impassioned plea on people hurt by the economy than Obama did, but echoing Obama comments giving them more strength

Obama clearly thinks more of Kerry than you do.

[blm]

21. Obama's most TRUSTED surrogate. He tapped him after convention and after first debate because

he knows Kerry will be there for HIM every step of the way. The way any loyal Democrat and patriotic statesman SHOULD be at this point in the election.

[karynnj]

24. Yep and he was one of very few allowed to speak at the convention without vetting

That shows a huge level of trust - especially as Kerry is enough of a "name" that had he said anything controversial, it would have been an issue. It was a speech he wrote himself.

http://www.politickerma.com/jeremyjacobs/929/kerry-wrote-his-own-convention-speech-obama-camp-didn-t-vet

[politicasista]

25. Yep. Obama appreciates Kerry as a surrogate whether

people like it or not. There is a reason Obama wants him out there.

[abumbyanyothername]

23. McCain "saving the day"

I don't think it's true, but I thought it could have been true. With the House Republicans in revolt, I thought it made some sense for McCain to go back to Washington and crack the "Country First" whip to get these Mavericks in line.

What actually happened should have reinforced and/or convinced everyone that McCain has ZERO leadership abilities.

I don't know who it was that convinced the House Republicans to come around, but whoever it was, it was not John McCain.

Hopefully people involved in this from our side (Reid, Pelosi) will enlighten us.

[karynnj]

15. same here and some people live blogged it on Kerryvision.net

I agree with your assessment. Kerry is very good handling Wallace - sounding his usual sane, reasonable self. http://www.kerryvision.net/2008/09/fox_news_sunday_liveblog.html I hope Fox puts up the video

There are some undecided people who watch Fox at least part of the time. Kerry is one of the few Democrats with the gravitas and temperament to do a great job getting Democratic points out to counter the noise.

[DinahMoeHum]

4. Chris Wallace is a wet shit-stain on his father's legacy.

:evilfrown:

[Catch22Dem]

6. You imply that dems are watching FAUX

I don't know any.

[stillcool]

7. The American people should boycott

Fox News. Better yet, boycott infotainment.

[Mass]

8. Uh. You were asleep or what? Kerry did very well. Of course Wallace favored

Graham, but only an idiot would think Kerry did poorly, which is the implication of your post, because otherwise, it would not matter.

[demokatgurrl]

9. Why should there be a need? Are any dems actually

watching Fox???

[fedupinBushcountry]

14. There are

local Fox stations and that is the only place I will go to watch any form of Faux. I'm sure you have watched a local Fox station in your own area.

[demokatgurrl]

29. Only for sports. I get news online- a lot of it on this site. n/t

[karynnj]

18. There likely are Democrats and even more independents

and many people who think they get a fair vie watching all 3. We need people on all of them because otherwise we are helping them get a stronger echo chamber.

[blm]

27. Plus, it's good to turn the tables on those asshats whenever possible.

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[RichGirl]

11. Boycott FOX???!!!

Boycott gives the impression that you are giving up something that you like in order to make a point. You couldn't pay me to watch FOX. I've deleted that channel from my TV.

You could boycott their sponsors. Since I don't watch, I don't know who their sponsors are.

[Hepburn]

12. Yeah, boycotting the sponsors....

...that is a better idea, IMO.

I absolutely hate Faux Snooze and it used to be that when I went to different business, in a waiting room, that POS station would be on the TV. So, I started asking to change the channel and if there was a refusal to do so, I would cancel my appointment and tell them specificially that because they had that RW propaganda in the waiting room, I was taking my business elsewhere.

I know a few others who regularly do this, too. Funny thing ~~ now I just do not see that sick RW propaganda filth on every TV in every waiting room like it used to be.

:hi:

[DCBob]

17. It wasn't that bad. Actually the session was a net plus for Obama.

Kerry did great. Lindsay Graham even gave in said he was tired of fighting and that Obama did fine in the debates. When Lindsay begins to give up then you know McCain is near finished.

[blm]

20. That pretty much was the way I saw it - I saw Lindsey act DEFEATED and unequipped to debate Kerry

and Wallace only looked foolish on the NKorea issue, showing he didn't have a grasp of the facts.

Obama always taps Kerry to surrogate for him on the big days after the convention and after the first debate. He TRUSTS Kerry will represent him well.

[globalvillage]

19. He was, but Sen. Kerry handled it well.

I think Sen Kerry did a great job. He listed the four principles for the bailout, talked about earmarks in reasonable terms that people can understand (good v bad), and countered Graham's charges effectively.

Great surrogate for Obama, and an effective interview for our side.

[samsingh]

22. we don't watch fox - already boycotted

[Bensthename]

26. Actually I was surprised how much Wallace let Kerry talk.

Kerry spoke about twice as much as Graham. With twice as powerful of jabs..

I thought it went pretty well for Fox.

[Jennicut]

28. I watch for fun and to laugh at their spin but not for real news.

[Inuca]

30. That's nonsense

it's the same mindset as refusing to talk to your enemies (remember? Iran, etc.).