Has McCain Been Called Out F/Lying About Kissinger's Stance Regarding "Preconditions"?

[KittyWampus]

I was out of town yesterday and haven't caught any shows today.

Any find him getting hammered for such a HUGE gaffe/outright lie?

[Aloha Spirit]

1. Probably not, since Kissinger defended McCain's statement.

[EV_Ares]

4. Well correct me if I am wrong here, the way I understood it was Obama was right and Kissenger did

come out and say which Obama kept trying to get McCain to understand. Obama did not say a president to go to Iran in an unconditional manner but someone at the level of Secretary of State. It is kind of confusing but McCain kept coming back and saying President and Obma kept trying to correct him by saying he was indicating Kessinger said President but none of that ever got out.

I think it was pretty much a misunderstanding. Not sure, but they will say Obama got it wrong I am sure.

[Bad Thoughts]

6. McCain changed the subject

He tried to divert attention from the area of agreement between Kissinger and Obama by inserting "presidential" into the mix. Kissinger made no limits in his original statement, saying that Sec/State level seemed to be the appropriate place to begin. IMO, Sec/State is already a high level: Rice's visits, for instance, generate major press coverage in foreign countries and cannot be taken as informal, behind the scenes, or innocuous.

I would add this: Kissinger and Nixon negotiated with China without securing guarantees for Taiwan. To this day, Beijing still conducts exercises aimed at cowing the population into reintegration. However, I believe that US relations has, for the most part, restrained Beijing without creating an official change of policy. Despite the current antagonism in the Middle East, Kissinger probably realizes that Iran and Israeli have the greatest stake in the stability of the region, and that they can (in rather indirect ways) collaborate.

[EV_Ares]

8. Thanks and a very good explanation. I knew that Obama kept trying to

get McCain corrected on the presidential thing and Obama mentioned Sec of State. But McCain had no intention of doing anything except trying to muddy the waters.

[ErinBerin84]

2. doesn't Kissinger advise McCain?

[Diamonique]

3. I read somewhere that CBS called him out on it.

During their gabfest right after the debate. They said Couric had asked him about it, sure that it would come up. I don't remember the details, but Kissinger's response to Katie meshed exactly with what Obama said during the debate.

I wasn't watching CBS at the time, so I didn't see this. I read it online somewhere. I usually watch MSNBC, and I haven't seen them bring it up at all.

[Princess Turandot]

5. This came up when Couric interviewed Palin..

afterwards, she indicated that she had called Kissenger to confirm that he was in agreement with 'no preconditions' prior to meeting with these countries; she said he had reconfirmed it to her. (This occurred before the Oxford debate, obviously.)

[yardwork]

7. I saw that. I was watching CBS and Katie Couric did confirm what Obama said.

Couric said that she'd called Kissinger after the "interview" with Palin and checked on his position, and Kissinger confirmed - he is in favor of talking with Iran, no preconditions, exactly what Obama said.

Personally, I don't care what war criminal Kissinger says, but Obama was correct and McChimpy was wrong.