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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:51 PM
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McCain Admits Health Plan Would Increase Taxes»
This is going to every McBush supporter I know.

http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/09/28/tax-increase-mccain/

McCain Admits Health Plan Would Increase Taxes»

Today, during an interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), who has previously promised “not raise your taxes nor support a tax increase,” finally admitted that his health care tax credits would not cover the costs of a comprehensive health insurance plan:

MCCAIN: Actually, my position is that it will be, it will give people actually more money to go out and purchase tax - health insurance on their own and only those with the Cadillac gold-plated health insurance policies today are the ones who might suffer from it. The ones -

STEPHANOPOULOS: So they would see their taxes go up potentially.

MCCAIN: It depends on, on, on what plan they have. But that’s usually the wealthiest people. Ordinary working Americans have the kind of - or an overwhelming majority have the health insurance plans that this tax credit, refundable tax credit, will actually put more money in their pockets for the purchase of health care than what they had before.

Watch it at link~

McCain’s tax increase is worse than he lets on:

- Eliminating Tax Exemption Increases Cost Of Plan For Those Who Need It Most: By equalizing the tax treatment of employer and individual plans and enticing healthy workers to buy cheaper but less substantive insurance in the individual market place, McCain’s tax reform would increase costs for sicker workers and may force some workers to opt out entirely.

- Tax Credits Don’t Keep Up With Health Costs: McCain’s credits will diminish in proportion to growing health care premiums. This is because McCain indexes the growth of his initial $5,000 offering to inflation, not premiums. And, since premiums grow at a higher rate than inflation, McCain’s proposal imposes a large tax increase on the middle class.

- Middle Class Experiences Largest Tax Increase: For a couple earning $40,000 and paying $13,800 for insurance, “McCain’s new tax credit would cut their taxes by $50 in 2009, but because the credit quickly falls behind rising premiums that are the basis of the current tax break, the family would pay $1,169 more in taxes in 2013… would pay $2,809 more in taxes by 2018.”

Ironically, McCain’s health care plan raises taxes for families whose yearly income just barely covers the cost of a Cadillac.
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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:55 PM
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1. I have one of those "Gold Plated" health palns
I work for the government and the insurane is sort of the compensation for the not very competitive (and frozen, btw0 salary.

Additionally, there are lots of things it doesn't cover. I have a kid with a chronic illness and I had to enroll her in a protocol at NIH to get needed tests done decause my insurnce wouldn't cover it
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:59 PM
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2. I doubt I could get private insurance at all.
I've had lymphoma. Without my employer insurance pool, I'd be sunk.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:59 PM
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3. Never thought I'd be happy I pay for my own health care
:crazy: We're in a topsy turvy world anymore.
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grannie4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:00 PM
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4. i have a weird health plan
i'm an rca with the usps. that's a substitute carrier. after many years we now have a health program. i choose the best plan at $137.00 a month. so, i go to the doctor & the insurance company sends me a check for $127.00. i don't understand :):):)
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:02 PM
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5. Gold-plated policies don't exist any more.
He is so dismally out of touch. I WISH TO GOD someone would tell him that a high-deductible health care plan easily exceeds $12,000 for an individual over the age of 50 with GROUP insurance. Forget trying to insure a family. Pre-existing condition? Here's a shovel, dig your own grave. (expletives deleted)
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:03 PM
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6. Looking at possibly one of the largest tax increases on middle class people ever. Stick a fork in
this guy.
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JimWis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:18 PM
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7. Out of touch with reality is right - Cadillac Gold Plated health
insurance plan?? As usual, he talks down to the middle class. I sense that whenever he talks. Like we are not really good enough for the Cadillac plan, just go get the cheap crappy plan and you can muddle through. As if there is such a thing as a cheap plan. Like Barack says - he just doesn't get it.
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:31 PM
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8. cadillac??? doesn t he mean mercedes?!?!
cadillac is pedestrian now...what an asshole!?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:49 PM
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9. From what I can gather, I think my family would fall into the group of people that would get taxed
on our health plan, under a President McCain.

I definitely need to study this more.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 04:13 PM
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10. This is fodder for debate #2. These words will haunt him.
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