Did Chicago Sun Times pull this article? Ebert: John McCain's bad manners

[Liberal_in_LA]

Posted one hour ago. Link doesn't work.


Ebert: John McCain's bad manners

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/1190154,ebertmccain092808.article

[MNDemNY]

1. got another link? what did it say??

[Liberal_in_LA]

3. No other link. Can't read it. Don't know what it says.

[Liberal_in_LA]

5. Here is the start of it... the part before the link.

ABC News Ebert: John McCain's bad manners - 1 hour ago

BY ROGER EBERT Sun-Times Movie Critic I do not like you, John McCain. My feeling has nothing to do with issues. It has to do with basic decency. ...

[grannie4peace]

2. didn't work for me either

[greenmutha]

4. Sure looks that way to me.

:shrug:

[babylonsister]

6. I googled it and you're right...

so much for freedom of the press.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/1190154,ebertmccain092808.article

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[BrklynLiberal]

19. I did too. It had the link, and when you clicked it...error.

[gateley]

7. They must have removed it -- WHY??

There was a link to it from Google, but this is what it took me to:

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[Liberal_in_LA]

8. It was pulled before it got into the cache. Can't find the content anywhere.

[Saturday]

9. Probably pulled because it began like this....

Ebert: John McCain's bad manners
Chicago Sun-Times - 1 hour, 17 minutes ago

I do not like you, John McCain. My feeling has nothing to do with issues. It has to do with basic decency. During the debate, you refused to look Barack Obama in the eye. Indeed, you refused to look at him at all.

[Overseas]

10. Yes they seem to have pulled it ! How foolish.

The title certainly doesn't sound controversial. I don't think anyone would disagree that McZombie was very rude.

[feddup]

11. Ok, that truly sucks...

I can't believe they would be so blatant in their censorship...well, I can believe it, but I'm still not happy about it. It's not even available through wayback... I'm definitely going to write the suntimes.

[POAS]

12. This might help

In the below linked blog my Ebert on his recent article on Creationism he talks about the blogs policy on politics.

Link: http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2008/09/this_is_the_dawning_of_the_age.html

But the purpose of this blog entry is not to discuss politics (a subject banned from the blog). Nor is it to discuss Creationism versus the theory of evolution (that way lurks an endless loop). It is to discuss the gradual decay of our sense of irony and instinct for satire, and our growing credulity.

[feddup]

13. Here's what I wrote to the news desk editor

Where is the following article and why was it scrubbed from the web???

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/1190154,ebertmccain092808.article

Readers have a right to view uncensored news content.

Where is your journalistic integrity?

[gateley]

14. Perfect, feddup! And welcome to DU!

:hi:

Edit. Fucked up my smilie.

[Cha]

15. Rec'd! I want to read that article...everyone is talking

about john mccain's "bad manners"..and I want to read Roger Ebert's take on this.

Roger Ebert whose voice we are fortunate to still have!

It's on google and the link is down like you wrote.

[JBoy]

16. It's one of two articles critical of McCain/Palin that got pulled today

http://tvnewslies.org/tvnl/index.php/latest-news-at-a-glance/23-journalism-a-media-news-archive/4584-two-gop-news-articles-qdisappear-from-web-news-sites.html

Two GOP news articles "disappear' from web news sites
Sunday, 28 September 2008 16:46

Two articles critical of GOP candidates McCain and Palin appeared in online editions of the Chicago Sun-Times and FOX News respectively. Both articles linked to 'error' messages within minutes of their publication.

The headline of the first story to 'disappear' was EBERT: JOHN McCAIN'S BAD MANNERS. The CST error link can be found at http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/1190154,ebertmccain092808.article

The FOX News headline was CONSERVATIVES BEGIN QUESTIONING PALIN'S HEFT, and links to an error message at http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/28/conservatives-begin-questioning-palins-heft/

[Liberal_in_LA]

17. Thanks! Hopefully someone out there clicked on the links before they were pulled.

[JBoy]

18. With a little more googling - I found the Fox story

LOL, on soc.culture.china

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/browse_thread/thread/da503176236efa28

A growing number of Republicans are expressing concern about Sarah
Palin’s uneven - and sometimes downright awkward - performances in her
limited media appearances.

Conservative columnist Kathleen Parker, a former Palin supporter, says
the vice presidential nominee should step aside. Kathryn Jean Lopez,
writing for the conservative National Review, says “that’s not a crazy
suggestion” and that “something’s gotta change.”

Tony Fabrizio, a GOP strategist, says Palin’s recent CBS appearance
isn’t disqualifying but is certainly alarming. “You can’t continue to
have interviews like that and not take on water.”

“I have not been blown away by the interviews from her, but at the
same time, I haven’t come away from them thinking she doesn’t know s-
t,” said Chris Lacivita, a GOP strategist. “But she ain’t Dick Cheney,
nor Joe Biden and definitely not Hillary Clinton.”

--- more ----

[Raschel]

20. What's he smoking?

"......but at the
same time, I haven’t come away from them thinking she doesn’t know s-
t,” said Chris Lacivita, a GOP strategist.

I sure come away from them thinking she doesn't know anything. Chris, this doesn't reflect well on your intellect.

[dchill]

23. But she DOES know shit...

but that is all.

[Cha]

21. Kick for anyone to locate a copy

of Roger Ebert's "Bad Manners"..especially in light of norah o'donnell's proclaimation that..

jenmito (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-27-08 11:42 AM
Original message

"Norah O'Donnell said McCain had to do well in tone and temperament, & McCain had a very strong night"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7219556

[kath]

22. The article has re-appeared - but it really DOES seem like the SunTimes had it censored

(or for *some* reason totally disappeared) for a few hours there. See this DU thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7234960

[Cha]

24. Thanks for posting the link to

Roger Ebert's article on the Sun Times website..everyone needs to read about mccain's "Bad Manners".

[kdpeters]

25. This link works: "Guess who's not coming to dinner"

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080928/COMMENTARY/809289997

[Liberal_in_LA]

26. Thanks!

[joop]

27. go Roger!

Beautiful! :kick:

[1corona4u]

28. Here's part of it that was posted earlier today

Guess who's not coming to dinner
BY ROGER EBERT / September 28, 2008

I do not like you, John McCain. My feeling has nothing to do with issues. It has to do with basic decency. During the debate, you refused to look Barack Obama in the eye. Indeed, you refused to look at him at all. Even when the two of you shook hands at the start, you used your eyes only to locate his hand, and then gazed past him as you shook it.

Obama is my guy. If you are rude to him, you are rude to me. If you came to dinner at my house and refused to look at or speak with one of my guests, that would be bad manners and I would be offended. Same thing if I went to your house. During the debate, you were America's guest.

=snip=

During the debate, Jim Lehrer repeatedly called upon both candidates to speak directly to each other. Obama looked at you. He addressed you as "John," which as a fellow senator is his privilege. His body language was open. You stared straight ahead, or at Lehrer, or into space. Your jaw was clenched. You had a tight little smile, or a grimace, or a little shake of your head.

=snip=

I'm not the only one who noticed your odd, hostile behavior pundits were wondering if you might explode in a display of your famous temper. I think we saw that happen, all right, but it was an implosion. I have instructed my wife to exclude you from any future dinner parties.