Want to piss me off? Tell me USA is a Christian nation.

[Deep13]

I said I would not post here during the election because of the way HC had been treated. Still, this pissed me off so much I had to put it somewhere.

Here is yet ANOTHER mass email that my Grandfather sent me in furtherance of the Obama-is-a-Muslim whispering campaign.

Subject: Fw: Well, here's one that will scare you!!!!!!!

I'm anxious to get replies!!!!!!!!!!!! (from the Obama supporters, mostly!)
Subject: Fw: Well, here's one that will scare you!!!!!!!

Subject: All I can say is 'Lord, Have mercy on us!'
This will make you re-think: A Trivia question in Sunday School:
How long is the beast allowed to have authority in Revelations?

Revelations Chapter 13 tells us it is 42 months, and you know what that is.
Almost a four-year term of a Presidency.

All I can say is 'Lord, Have mercy on us!'

According to The Book of Revelations the anti-Christ is: The anti-Christ will
be a man, in his 40's, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with
persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says
that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace,
and when he is in power, will destroy everything..

Do we recognize this description??

I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to post this as many times as
you can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet..do it!
I refuse to take a chance on this unknown candidate who came out of nowhere.

From: Dr. John Tisdale
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dear Friends,

As I was listening to a news program last night, I watched in horror as Barack Obama made the statement with pride. . 'we are no longer a Christian nation; we are now a nation of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, . . .' As with so many other statements I've heard him (and his wife) make, I never thought I'd see the day that I'd hear something like that from a presidential candidate in this nation. To think our forefathers fought and died for the right for our nation to be a Christian nation--and to have this man say with pride that we are no longer that. How far this nation has come from what our founding fathers intended it to be.

I hope that each of you will do what I'm doing now--send your concerns, written simply and sincerely, to the Christians on your email list. With God's help, and He is still in control of this nation and all else, we can show this man and the world in November that we are, indeed, still a Christian nation!

Please pray for our nation!

MY REPLY (in case you want to use any of it):

Well, since you asked.

I guess I don't care what Revelation says or that Obama recognizes that this is not nor has ever been a Christian nation. The only "authority" I do care about is the Constitution of the United States.

Article VI:
***
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

What scares me is not that Obama declined to impose the view of the 75% of nominal Christians onto everyone else (including me), but that religion generally and Christianity in particular continues to encroach into official public concerns. Frankly, I find it horrifying that a woman who "speaks in tongues" and has prayers to protect her from "witchcraft" (whatever that might be) may become president sometime in the next four years.

Frankly I would not care if Obama were a Muslim (and this rumor has been discredited months ago) as long as he put the Constitution first. And I suspect that the purpose of continuing this whisper campaign is to scare us. McCain is a good man, but if he wins and does what he says he will do, we will be reduced to another Mexico. If Obama wins we MAY be screwed, but if he is successful it will substantially mitigate the damage of the last eight years. So, certain failure with McCain versus possible success with Obama.

Here is the now often-cited treaty between the USA and Tripoli (Libya)

Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

This treaty was signed by President John Adams in 1799 and was unanimously ratified by the Senate. Adams was of course one of the four principal Founding Fathers (along with Washington, Jefferson and Franklin) and was himself a devout Christian. Like the Constitution, Adams drew a distinction between the secular "government" and the country generally. People can be whatever religion they want (including Muslim), but to protect that right the Government must remain secular.

(signed)

[scarface2004]

1. here ya go...the usa is a crisp shin nation!!

rant starts now!

[CJCRANE]

2. Islam began about 5 centuries after Revelations was written...

so I don't see how it can mention "someone of muslim descent"..?

:shrug:

[Tallison]

6. B-b-but...that's rationale!

:smile scratching head:

[Golden Raisin]

19. But these are the "christians"

who think Jesus was blond, blue-eyed and spoke American English. Their take on history and the Bible is slanted to say the least.

[pipi_k]

33. He also

drove a Hummer and owned a 52" flat screen LCD TV and would have approved of the way Christian America runs up massive debt on credit cards.




:7

[LiberalFighter]

11. Revelations doesn't mention Muslims or most anything else mentioned in that tripe.

Not even the age of the so called anti-Christ.

Revelations 13

1And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

9If any man have an ear, let him hear.

10He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

[CJCRANE]

3. dupe

[CJCRANE]

4. dupe

[AZBlue]

5. Another thing to point out - The Book of Revelation doesn't give a description of the anti-Christ.

As a matter of fact, there's no description given anywhere in the Bible.

Great info here: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/antichrist.asp

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

7. Jesus on the flag is disturbed by your lack of faith...

[Kalyke]

32. Double whammy...

That's both sacreligious and unpatriotic.

Whew! That stinks!

[Clio the Leo]

8. no no no, we are a part of the Rhythm Nation. :-) NT

[AzDar]

21. ...Strictly adhering to the Pleasure Principle.

;-)

[secondwind]

9. After Obama is in office for 7 years, I hope we can find a highly-educated,

highly qualified successor to Obama in the White House. Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, I don't care. As long as he or she is the smartest mother-fucker in the Democratic party.

:kick:

[Dr. Strange]

41. I'm a little uncomfortable with that.

I can't abide people who have sexual relations with their mothers, intelligence notwithstanding.

[Maestro]

10. I completely agree with you.

I am sick and tired of extremist christians rewriting the Constitution! The founders were at the most deists.

[LiberalFighter]

12. I thought the USA was established because of a tax dispute with England.

[Left Is Write]

13. I find it interesting that people who insist upon supplying alleged Biblical material

not only give false information (the Book of Revelation does not give any description of the anti-Christ), they also consistently screw up the name of the Biblical book they say the information comes from. It is NOT Revelations or The Book of Revelations. It is Revelation.

To those who propagate this nonsense: If you're going to claim the Bible as support for your idiotic opinions, you might want to at least give the appearance of knowing what you're talking about.

[riqster]

30. Most Fundagelicals are not well-versed in Scripture

...rather, they are led by their Pastor through a carefully selected and heavily interpreted group of verses, taken out of context. Very few have read beyond that.

For example-quiz one about the Council of Nicea, and see what they know about it. If anything. At best,they might spout the Nicean Creed, which has nothing to do with the editing-by-dull-blade that occured there at the behest of the Paulines (and Emperor Constantine).

[LiberalFighter]

14. Consider that the Muslims consider Jesus to be one of their prophets.

[LiberalAndProud]

15. Don't want to and won't say it.

Welcome back though!
:pals:

[WillyT]

16. Send Them A Copy Of This:

A Nation of Christians Is Not a Christian Nation
By JON MEACHAM

Correction Appended

<snip>

JOHN McCAIN was not on the campus of Jerry Falwell’s Liberty University last year for very long — the senator, who once referred to Mr. Falwell and Pat Robertson as “agents of intolerance,” was there to receive an honorary degree — but he seems to have picked up some theology along with his academic hood. In an interview with Beliefnet.com last weekend, Mr. McCain repeated what is an article of faith among many American evangelicals: “the Constitution established the United States of America as a Christian nation.”

According to Scripture, however, believers are to be wary of all mortal powers. Their home is the kingdom of God, which transcends all earthly things, not any particular nation-state. The Psalmist advises believers to “put not your trust in princes.” The author of Job says that the Lord “shows no partiality to princes nor regards the rich above the poor, for they are all the work of his hands.” Before Pilate, Jesus says, “My kingdom is not of this world.” And if, as Paul writes in Galatians, “there is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female: for you are all one in Christ Jesus,” then it is difficult to see how there could be a distinction in God’s eyes between, say, an American and an Australian. In fact, there is no distinction if you believe Peter’s words in the Acts of the Apostles: “I most certainly believe now that God is not one to show partiality, but in every nation the man who fears him and does what is right is welcome to him.”

The kingdom Jesus preached was radical. Not only are nations irrelevant, but families are, too: he instructs those who would be his disciples to give up all they have and all those they know to follow him.

The only acknowledgment of God in the original Constitution is a utilitarian one: the document is dated “in the year of our Lord 1787.” Even the religion clause of the First Amendment is framed dryly and without reference to any particular faith. The Connecticut ratifying convention debated rewriting the preamble to take note of God’s authority, but the effort failed.

A pseudonymous opponent of the Connecticut proposal had some fun with the notion of a deity who would, in a sense, be checking the index for his name: “A low mind may imagine that God, like a foolish old man, will think himself slighted and dishonored if he is not complimented with a seat or a prologue of recognition in the Constitution.” Instead, the framers, the opponent wrote in The American Mercury, “come to us in the plain language of common sense and propose to our understanding a system of government as the invention of mere human wisdom; no deity comes down to dictate it, not a God appears in a dream to propose any part of it.”

While many states maintained established churches and religious tests for office — Massachusetts was the last to disestablish, in 1833 — the federal framers, in their refusal to link civil rights to religious observance or adherence, helped create a culture of religious liberty that ultimately carried the day.

Thomas Jefferson said that his bill for religious liberty in Virginia was “meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and the Mahometan, the Hindu, and infidel of every denomination.” When George Washington was inaugurated in New York in April 1789, Gershom Seixas, the hazan of Shearith Israel, was listed among the city’s clergymen (there were 14 in New York at the time) — a sign of acceptance and respect. The next year, Washington wrote the Hebrew Congregation of Newport, R.I., saying, “happily the government of the United States ... gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance. ... Everyone shall sit in safety under his own vine and fig tree, and there shall be none to make him afraid.”

Andrew Jackson resisted bids in the 1820s to form a “Christian party in politics.” Abraham Lincoln buried a proposed “Christian amendment” to the Constitution to declare the nation’s fealty to Jesus. Theodore Roosevelt defended William Howard Taft, a Unitarian, from religious attacks by supporters of William Jennings Bryan.

The founders were not anti-religion. Many of them were faithful in their personal lives, and in their public language they evoked God. They grounded the founding principle of the nation — that all men are created equal — in the divine. But they wanted faith to be one thread in the country’s tapestry, not the whole tapestry.

In the 1790s, in the waters off Tripoli, pirates were making sport of American shipping near the Barbary Coast. Toward the end of his second term, Washington sent Joel Barlow, the diplomat-poet, to Tripoli to settle matters, and the resulting treaty, finished after Washington left office, bought a few years of peace. Article 11 of this long-ago document says that “as the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,” there should be no cause for conflict over differences of “religious opinion” between countries.

The treaty passed the Senate unanimously. Mr. McCain is not the only American who would find it useful reading.

***********************************************************************************************

Jon Meacham, the editor of Newsweek, is the author of “American Gospel” and “Franklin and Winston.”

Correction: October 13, 2007

An Op-Ed article on Sunday, about the idea of the United States as a Christian nation, incorrectly described the number of the original Constitution’s religious references. Article VI forbids the use of “a religious test” for officeholders; the phrase “the year of our Lord” is not the sole allusion to religion.

<snip>

Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/07/opinion/07meacham.html

:hi:

[GreenPartyVoter]

17. I hate stupid letters like that. Sometimes I refer people who think that to these

links: http://www.hostdiva.com/liberalchristians/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=29

[NotThisTime]

18. If you ask "them", we are a Nation of Christians, however, we are NOT...

[Obamanaut]

20. Deleted

[LWolf]

22. The U.S.A. is a christian nation.

Hope you got the shot of adrenaline you were hoping for.

In principle, she's not supposed to be.

In reality, in practical terms, she is.

:nuke:

[Deep13]

23. And yet no witches have been hanged since colonial times.

Christianity influences public policy and shapes the general public landscape. Nevertheless, birth control is legal as is divorce, pants for women and eating meat on Friday. On the other hand, there is no state-enforced tithe, church attendance or even membership or direct governmental support for religion (although indirect support is there mainly through "charities" and education).

[LWolf]

24. Other faiths still have some protections under the law.

Although the separation is not as deep and wide as I would like to see it.

Still, xianity is the majority, and permeates everything we do from the flag salute (who questions which "god" "under god" refers to?), to invocations and prayers at government meetings, to political battles fought in the name of organized christian dogma.

[comrade snarky]

28. So how many of the 10 commandments are law?

I mean if we are a christian nation shouldn't it be reflected in our laws?

Truth is we are not a christian nation, though some thoughtless folks might wish it were different. I see a difference in a majority population and the designation christian nation as Israel is a jewish state or Saudi Arabia is a muslim nation.

[LWolf]

31. The difference between theory and practice.

It's simply not that clear cut. Christians like things to be simple, polarized, black and white. They like easy answers, like we either ARE, or ARE NOT, a christian nation.

We are not, if you go by the constitution and the rule of law. We are, if you measure by which organized religion has a majority, and the most influence.

If you think our government, our society, our culture, is not impregnated with xtian bigotry and doctrine, you are turning a blind eye. It doesn't matter that there is no official law making christianity the national religion, when the agenda of organized christianity is pandered to in all levels and categories of human interactions in the nation.

I can see the reality, everywhere I look. I don't like it, but I don't deny it, either.

[comrade snarky]

35. I'm not saying there isnt christian bigotry.

When did I say that?

I'm saying we are not a christian country. I don't know if you've spent any time in a nation actually run by it's religion but if you do you will see the difference. Bill Mahr ain't going to jail for his new film.

Things are bad, but they have to get a whole lot worse before we're a christain country.

[LWolf]

36. I guess that depends, then, on

how narrowly you define "christian country." If you mean that an organized sect IS the government, or runs the government, then we are not.

If you mean that christian dogma permeates public policy and public life at all levels, then we are.

[comrade snarky]

38. If you call us a christian country

You play into the christian hands.

If it is a christian country then they are right to call for religious laws aren't they? In a christian country what's wrong with making it illegal to be gay?

You have allowed them to frame the argument.

[LWolf]

39. No.

If I were talking to someone determined to declare us a christian nation, I'd be using all your talking points, and more, lol.

I'd be defending the first amendment and the diminishing separation.

When I'm talking to those who support both the first amendment and the separation of church and state, then I talk about concerns with this reality: that separation is diminishing. There's not much distance between church and state. They grow closer all the time. I keep waiting for wedding announcements.

[comrade snarky]

40. It's a Public Forum

Anyone can read. Anyone can quote.
It's like talking on a plane or bus. This is not a private conversation.

But it's up to you, I think you're wrong to use the terminology but if you are determined to do it there's nothing I can do.

At base I know we agree though :-)

[LWolf]

42. You are right.

Underneath the play of words, we ARE in agreement. :)

[PatGund]

25. Send this back...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/antichrist.asp

[Blondiegrrl]

26. Please. The smarmy little cowboy-talking white guy has destroyed

so much already that there won't be anything left of this country by the time Obama gets to the White House.

P.S. -- That's Revelation (singlular). You'd think such devout Christians would know the Bible better.

[NoSheep]

27. Send him Frank Schaeffer's book: Crazy for God

http://www.frankschaeffer.com/

That'll learn 'em.

[noonwitch]

34. Great Link! I am familiar with Frank Schaeffer's father's writings

From my IVCF days as a freshman at WMU. The other members were big on his books, I had trouble making sense of them. I had read them without being familiar with philosphy in general, and was completely unfamiliar with the teachings that Schaeffer was trying to rip apart.

Even during Francis Schaeffer's life, there was some controversy within evangelical christianity about his writing. I remember reading somewhere in the early 80s that Wheaton College (Billy Graham's school) used Schaeffer's writings as an example of bad christian philosophy.

[mscuedawg]

29. I've gotten the same ones....I see someone above me posted Revelations...here's the rest...

"To think our forefathers fought and died for the right for our nation to be a Christian nation--"

Our forefathers called for a division of church and state so that there was Freedom of religion....

The phrase separation of church and state is generally traced to a letter written by Thomas Jefferson in 1802 to the Danbury Baptists, in which he referred to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution as creating a "wall of separation" between church and state. The phrase was then quoted by the United States Supreme Court first in 1878, and then in a series of cases starting in 1947. This led to increased popular and political discussion of the concept.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state

"Barack Obama made the statement with pride. . .'we are no longer a Christian nation; we are now a nation of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, . . .' "

He said we are no longer "JUST" a Christian nation, but a nation of many other faiths as well. A chain e-mail drops that key word and thus changes the meaning.
This is an example of how omitting a single word from an otherwise accurate quote can twist the meaning so completely as to reverse it.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_say_we_are_no_longer.html


August 26, 2008
Q:

Did Obama say we "are no longer a Christian nation"?

Is this true? It is now traveling around the Internet.

U. S. 'no longer a Christian Nation'



As I was listening to a news program last night, I watched in horror as Barack Obama made the statement with pride...'we are no longer a Christian nation; we are now a Nation of Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, . .'



As with so many other statements I've heard him (and his wife) make, I never thought I'd see the day that I'd hear something like that from a presidential candidate in this nation. To think our forefathers fought and died for the right for our nation to be a Christian Nation--and to have this man say with pride that we are no longer that. How far this nation has come from what our founding fathers intended it to be.




I hope that each of you will do what I'm doing now--send your concerns, written simply and sincerely, to the Christians on your email list. With God's help, and He is still in control of this nation and all else, we can show this man and the world in November that we are, indeed, still a Christian nation!




A:

He said we are no longer "just" a Christian nation, but a nation of many other faiths as well. A chain e-mail drops that key word and thus changes the meaning.

This is an example of how omitting a single word from an otherwise accurate quote can twist the meaning so completely as to reverse it. Here's what Obama meant to say, during his keynote address to a "Call to Renewal" conference sponsored by the progressive Christian magazine Sojourners two years ago:

Obama, June 28, 2006 (prepared remarks): Given the increasing diversity of America's population, the dangers of sectarianism have never been greater. Whatever we once were, we are no longer just a Christian nation; we are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.

That quote appears also on Obama's campaign Web site. Unfortunately for Obama, he stumbled just a bit when he delivered the actual quote, as can be seen in this video of his speech, posted on YouTube by the Obama campaign. The way it actually came out was:

Obama, June 28, 2006 (as delivered): Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation – at least, not just. We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, and a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.

That wasn't as smoothly stated as he had intended, but the meaning remains clear to any reasonable person. Saying that the U.S. is not "just" a Christian nation carries the sense that it is both a Christian nation and more: a nation of Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus and nonbelievers as well. Furthermore, any survey of religious beliefs held by Americans will show that to be a factually correct statement.

However, what the authors of this and similar mass e-mails have chosen to omit is the word "just," converting Obama's factual description of America's diversity of religious beliefs to a statement that some interpret as anti-Christian.

This snippet from Obama's two-year-old speech was resurrected June 23 by Fox News, which aired it a number of times. Although the Fox clip retained Obama's awkwardly worded qualification, "at least not just," Fox commentator Sean Hannity said the quote nevertheless showed Obama "seeming to downplay the current role of Christianity in the United States of America." (Hannity also claimed Obama had said the same thing during his 2004 keynote address to the Democratic National Convention, but he was wrong about that. No such words appear there.)

The "news program" that the chain e-mail refers to is almost certainly one of the Fox News re-airings of the two-year-old quote. We received our first Ask FactCheck query about it the day after Hannity aired it, but by then the word "just" had gone entirely missing.
Ask FactCheck query, June 24: Did Barack Obama state in a news conference" We are no longer a Christian nation; we are now a nation of Christians,Jews, Muslims, Buddists..."

That was followed by several others, including the version quoted in full above. None included the word "just."

An Organized Effort?

There are indications that the inaccurate version – omitting the word "just" – has been spread in an organized effort to discredit Obama. The news database Nexis contains two letters to the editor that appeared in different states over different signatures, but with words that are nearly identical to the e-mail we quote above.

One appeared in the San Angelo (Texas) Standard-Times on July 29. It begins:

Texas Letter to the Editor, July 29: As my husband and I were watching a news program earlier this week, we watched in horror as Barack Obama made the statement with pride ..."we are no longer a Christian nation; we are now a nation of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists."So many other statements made by him (and his wife) were upsetting enough, but I never thought the day would come when we would hear something like that from a presidential candidate in this country.

The second version, supposedly from another person in another state, appeared Aug. 3 in the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin in Ontario, Calif. In this version the writer tells of watching the news program alone, not with a spouse, but otherwise it contains strikingly similar wording. It begins:

California Letter to the Editor, Aug. 3: As I was listening to a news program recently, I was horrified when Barack Obama said with pride, "We are no longer a Christian nation. We are now a nation of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists." I never thought I'd see the day when I'd hear something like that from a presidential candidate in this nation.

Public relations campaigns in which boilerplate letters are sent to editors around the country, hoping to get them printed, have been a staple of persuasion campaigns for generations. The Internet has provided a new avenue for such organized efforts. If this is one such effort, it has succeeded. An Internet search for the words "Obama says U.S. no longer a Christian nation" brings up page after page of blog entries and other Web postings repeating the altered Obama quote, without the word "just."

And if this is the centrally organized effort that it appears to be, we would like to remind its supposedly Christian organizers of the Ninth Commandment: "Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour." Words to live by.

-Brooks Jackson
Sources

Obama, Barack. “ ‘Call to Renewal’ Keynote Address.” Obama.senate.gov. Washington, D.C., 28 June 2006.
Obama, Barack. “ ‘Call to Renewal’ Keynote Address.” YouTube. Washington, D.C., 28 June 2006.

[Captiosus]

37. Know another nation that proclaimed itself to be devoutly Christian?

Just sayin'.