North Carolina just flipped to blue on RCP (no toss ups) EC map!!

[DCBob]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/?map=10

This is quite remarkable. NC should have been a solid McCain state. Obama's far and wide state strategy is working. It's now Obama/Biden: 301 McCain/Palin: 237

[VoodooGuru]

1. I heard a distant series of pops... may have been freep heads exploding over this. nt

[SallyMander]

14. Their heads are empty, so it's more of a dull "pffft" sound

:rofl:

[melody]

16. Like the sound of an empty pinata lol n/t

[GodlessBiker]

2. Da-yum! Real nice!!

[ClarkUSA]

3. That may explain why McAsshole has no present plans to campaign there

Team Obama NC has been working their tails off since mid-January and it's really paying off.

[DCBob]

7. Yes it is. Kudos to the NC Obama team!!

NC is now Obama territory!

[ClarkUSA]

30. Let's keep it this way. All DU Southerners should spend time and/or phonebank in NC or VA

We need all hands on deck. Anyone who can take a day off or two on or before Election Day to help GOTV
would also be invaluable. :patriot:

[neverforget]

4. Give me a break!

It's only going to get better! :toast:

[Clio the Leo]

5. Remember when we were just DREAMING of this two weeks ago!!! ....

.... if we can do it in NC we can do it anywhere!!!! Keep up the good work kids!!!!!!

[DCBob]

11. The dream looks like it will become reality. Cheers!!

:toast:

[billyoc]

6. Jesse Helms country. Unbelievable.

[mitchum]

8. Now I sort of regret celebrating his demise...

I wish that bastard were still around to see this

[billyoc]

13. Oh, I know it. I'll never forget his threatening Clinton.

"If I were President Clinton, I'd think twice about visiting any military bases in the state of North Carolina."

I wish that traitorous Confederate prick were alive to see the military vote going 5-1 for Obama.

[DainBramaged]

9. And McLame ONLY has a 1.2 percentage point lead in Ohio.

We get Ohio, it's over for them.

[DCBob]

12. Yep. Ohio and Florida will be next to flip.

Then we will have a landslide folks!

[jerryster]

23. If OH and FL flip...

... then I will have a giant grin on my face that may never go away.

[DainBramaged]

28. I may just have mine cast in plaster

[blue-kite]

10. Close yet

STill very close yet... a +2 and two ties...
Lets see how the post-debate polls pan out.
But regardless of this great news.
Keep up the good work.
Get out the Vote!

[jerryster]

17. More great news

And check out gallup today (+8 Obama) and fivethirtyeight.com.

[earthlover]

20. GET OUT THE VOTE---key words!

If any of us don't volunteer to help with the local GOTV efforts,....well fill in your own blank!

[vanboggie]

54. It'll only be close when they steal again

Traitorous b*stards will do anything, as we know from the dirty tricks of the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections. They'll program the cheat (voting) equipment, interfere with voting in Dem precincts, hire people to write stupid chit on Dem message boards - anything. It's pathetic really.

Edited to add: But we're not putting up with another steal - uh uh, no way in hell.

[dtotire]

15. It's Still Toss-up

The last 3 polls have Obama slightly ahead or tie. Hope it holds for the next 5 weeks. Polls don't reflect the debate.

this is the map with toss-ups


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/?map=5

[melody]

18. Yeah, god forbid someone have a little optimism

We must consistently remember to be negative. :eyes:

[blue-kite]

25. Keep working

Thats the message!
And stay positive
And drink lots and smoke weed.
Where its legal of course!

[melody]

32. I don't drink or smoke anything (well, nothing but water ... smoking water is tough)

But I'll stay positive ... and of course we all have to work.

[blue-kite]

62. Sounds good...

[WillyT]

19. AND... Virginia !!!

:woohoo:

[DCBob]

31. VA + NC would be a killer. McCain cannot win without them.

This has to be totally devastating to the McCain campaign. There are leaks everywhere and they are running out of fingers and toes to plug them up.

[MadBadger]

21. They finally took that bullshit outlier R2000 poll that had McCain up 17 out.

[DCBob]

26. Yes. That stupid poll finally "aged" out.

Otherwise NC would have been blue about a week ago.

[olkaz]

22. Let's be fair, it's the Dean/Obama strategy.

Dean started it with the 50-state thing.

But totally agreed, the investment is paying off.

[DCBob]

27. Correct. Kudos to Dean!!

:toast:

[Starlight]

35. Yep. That man never ceases to amaze me with his incredible insight.

[DesertFlower]

24. great news. nt

[Spritz57]

29. FIRED UP!

[angee_is_mad]

72. READY TO GO

Yes we can!!!!

[wildeyed]

33. That is so cool!

Made this NC'ers day!

[Island Blue]

34. I'm not totally surprised about this.

We do after all, have a history of voting for Democratic governors (most of who have not been DINOs). Of course Obama and his campaign have been working their collective asses off to win the state, and for that I salute them. Too bad most past Democratic candidates all but ignored the state - who knows what could have happened.

[Triana]

36. W000000!!!

:woohoo:

[ladyVet]

37. Well, dayum.

I'm loving this! My homestate. I hope it holds!

[NoSheep]

38. recommended by a proud North Carolinian!

[Pisces]

39. Florida is going to turn Blue and so is Indiana!!!!

[Lochloosa]

56. I'll turn blue if Florida does. Would love to see it though.

[Lex]

40. **** Check this out about NC's newly registered voters: ****

With the presidential election only two months away, North Carolina political parties are in a fight to the finish to capture the state's changing electorate.

Although Republicans have successfully courted 36,000 newly registered voters this election cycle, Democrats have added 167,000 residents to their voter rolls in the traditionally red state.

"We were under no illusions going into 2008 that it was going to be anything other than easy," said Brent Woodcox, spokesperson for the North Carolina Republican Party.

link

[jerryster]

43. 167,000!!

That is just amazing. And we're ahead in the percentage of party affiliation nationwide.

[DCBob]

44. Wow. Those are some great numbers. That could make the difference!

Cheers! :toast:

[choie]

58. LOL, take a look at that quote...

"We were under no illusions going into 2008 that it was going to be anything other than easy," said Brent Woodcox, spokesperson for the North Carolina Republican Party.

I don't think this means what he thinks it means! He basically just said that they thought it was gonna be a cake walk.

Maybe I'm misreading his convoluted phrasing, but if what he meant was that "we always knew this wasn't gonna be easy," shouldn't he have said "we were under no illusions ... that it was going to be anything other than tough"? Anyone else able to speak Repug?

[PermanentRevolution]

60. No, you've got it right - he's just a dumbass

:rofl:

[theothersnippywshrub]

67. Sounds like republican VP qualifications. Can he see Russia from North Carolina?

[young_at_heart]

41. Hooray for NC---my state!

It's becoming more and more progressive thank goodness!

[Alpharetta]

47. I always picture NC as soldiers, smokers, and church people

In your perspective, are those "groups" turning more liberal or are they getting outnumbered?

[knowledgeispwr]

50. As another North Carolinian...I feel that's a limited view

Sure, there are people like that, but there are certainly a lot of people who aren't.

I say changing. NC has tons of good universities and the number of educated people are growing.
A changing economy is attracting immigration (from outside of the US and from the North).
The state is also diversifying ethnically and religiously with the new immigrants.

The 3 "metro" areas (Charlotte, the Triad (Winston-Salem, Greensboro, High Point) and the Triangle (Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill)) are also growing quickly.

[marions ghost]

65. insider tells me

there's LOTS of support for Obama around Fort Bragg....the soldiers are from everywhere and have not enjoyed their multiple tours in Iraq so much

There are a lot of new residents in NC--not all liberals, so I don't buy that they're saving NC from red state hell

Smokers, don't know any, so can't say

A lot of churchgoers are black in NC & not all white church people in NC are fundies

Tons of conservative businesspeople around Charlotte, but maybe they aren't doing so well under the Bush Regime. Possible the smarter ones quietly flipping.

Possible that some Bush supporters on lower incomes are finally getting the picture...the slop is running out at their end of the trough...

just a few trends--including the trend to cleaner elections, which is helping....

[Lex]

74. Did you picture any black people or college kids or professionals in the RTP?

RTP

[Alpharetta]

76. one or two. but republican

sorry!

:)

[elkston]

84. Black, former RTP professional, and 100% for Obama right here !!! :-) (eom)

[Lex]

86. If you were also in college

you would've hit the trifecta of my post! :hi:

[young_at_heart]

79. I guess I would have to say "outnumbered"

Where I live, Asheville, there are many transplants, who are (IMO) on the progressive side. When we first moved here, ten years ago, I was worried that we wouldn't "fit in". I was born in Glendale, Calif. and until recently, lived in the LA area all my life. Fortunately, I've been very surprised and happy with this area's progressiveness. I do admit, however, that the rural areas seem to be mired in a more rigid type of thinking----but I want to have hope for change!

[Lex]

81. sad what

lack of education combined with fervent religion can do to people

[jbnow]

87. Sounds good if you think about it

soldiers
There are 3 veterans groups that score votes. Most recently

Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America
Obama received a B+
John McCain received a D.

Disabled American Veterans
Barack Obama 80%
John McCain 20%.

Vietnam Veterans of America
Barack Obama 14/15
John McCain 9/25.

Obama cares about veterans. If they knew this...
Also those enlisted in Iraq are heavily for Obama per donations

smokers
That should be obvious. His wife made him quit but they have a buddy.

church people
Which of them is better at living up to the teachings of Jesus

[jerryster]

55. This week in Time...

an interesting article about Charlotte.

[samsingh]

42. that would be huge if it sticks

[musicblind]

45. I laugh about that DUer who chewed me out for thinking NC would go blue.

I promised it would... and it will.

[Awsi Dooger]

80. I doubt that was me, but if so I'm putting my money where my mouth is

I've bet on McCain several times this weekend to win North Carolina. Playing it below 60 is a steal.

This is typical euphoria by people who don't bet. You get short term trends each way, then eventually reality prevails. Right now we're at a pro-Obama stretch that is impacting the state polls and even the state odds. I'm thrilled to take advantage.

It's one thing to narrow the gap. Quite another to get over the top.

[elkston]

82. It was you. You're a PUMA. You hate Obama and shill for Clinton at every opportunity.

I hope we win NC so you can eat your words.

[elkston]

83. We could win big on Nov. 5th and you be complaining about how we didn't win bigger. (eom)

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

88. So true......

Having just found the thread I was wondering if our resident compulisve gambler had shown up. Seeing as most DUers are working their asses off to get Obama elected, I wish certain tactless assholes (who haven't done shit to help the cause) would just keep their fucking mouths shut.


Rant off.

[aasleka]

46. NC will go blue, been saying it almost a year now. Obama will take the WH 70/30

[thatsrightimirish]

48. If we lose Ohio and Florida

and win North Carolina and Virginia, that would just be so bizarre.

[DCBob]

49. Indeed and also that Obama could win in that scenario.

Who would have thought?

[elkston]

64. What it would point to is an awakening of one part of the electorate, drowning out the other ones!

[Hamlette]

51. It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas (or a landslide...the same.) n/t

[rebel with a cause]

52. celebrate but don't relax and think this thing is in the bag.

The only way I would say we have it made is if Texas flips and stays that way all the way through November. :rofl:

[stuntcat]

53. omg I'll be so PROUD!

I live in VA for now but I'm heading back to NC soon as I can.
I'm totally proud of how beautiful it is but soon I can be proud of how BLUE it is :bounce: :bounce:

[vanderBeth]

57. Very Nice.

A NC and VA victory would be great.

[rainbow4321]

59. Their red line/blue line graph shows Obama within 10.8 points in TX!!

Put your cursor on the end of the blue line and you will see 9/26 polling results. Obama 38 McCain 48.8

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/tx/texas_mccain_vs_obama-628.html

Most likely the poll doesn't capture all the new voters signed up since the primaries (registration goes thru Oct 6th, also) and those with "cell phones only", etc...

What I would give to hear on Election Night "Texas--still to close to call"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Compare this 10 point span to that of chimp's in 2000 and 2004--21 and 23 point spread
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/?map=10

[mvd]

61. K&R

It would be great to break through in a couple Southern states.

[slay]

63. As someone who lives in NC let me just say WHEW and I HOPE SO!

Hope it stays that way - AND that our election isn't rigged.

[treestar]

66. And i was just dissing that state a week ago!

I take it all back!!!

[Lex]

69. We didn't care anyway.

nt

[seabeyond]

68. i still want ohio, florida and nevada. just sayin n/t

[DCBob]

71. Hang tight -- I think you are going get them next week.

[seabeyond]

70. look at ohio poll numbers. sure look messed up... so not in line or consistent

you can see where some play games



RCP Average 09/11 - 09/24 -- 46.3 45.1 McCain +1.2

Rasmussen 09/24 - 09/24 700 LV 47 46 McCain +1

InAdv/PollPosition 09/22 - 09/22 545 LV 46 46 Tie

Big10 Battleground 09/14 - 09/17 619 RV 45 46 Obama +1

Ohio Newspaper Poll 09/12 - 09/16 869 LV 48 42 McCain +6

Marist 09/11 - 09/15 565 LV 45 47 Obama +2

National Journal/FD 09/11 - 09/15 400 RV 42 41 McCain +1

CNN/Time 09/13 - 09/14 913 RV 47 49 Obama +2

PPP (D) 09/13 - 09/14 1077 LV 48 44 McCain +4

SurveyUSA 09/12 - 09/14 692 LV 49 45 McCain +4

See All Ohio: McCain vs. Obama Polling Data

[DCBob]

73. Considering the latest major events, these polls are essentially obsolete.

I am convinced the next batch of polls will have Obama ahead in both OH and FL.

[Dem_4_Life]

75. Congrats to the NC Obama team!!! Yes we can!!!

That is fantastic!!!

:bounce:

[BlooInBloo]

77. We may or may not win NC at the end, but we WILL make McCrazy blow his wad there...

Instead of other places where we're in more danger. Thus, the true significance of this lies in how solid OH and other battleground states will be in the coming weeks.

[ccharles000]

78. I went to the rally yesterday here in Greensboro...

and I am so happy to give Barack my vote. I would love to see a blue NC.

[SIMPLYB1980]

85. Kick ass NC!

[marions ghost]

89. Now's the time for the NC Surge...

keep up the good work, North Carolina. Don't let Virginia beat us this time... ;-)