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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:24 AM
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Boy, Peggy Noonan is off her medicine...
Or she is just utterly bamnboozeled...

This from he adoring WSJ column about last nights debate.


The heart of her message was a complete populist pitch. "Joe Six-Pack" and "soccer moms" should unite to fight the tormentors who forced mortgages on us. She spoke of "Main Streeters like me." A question is at what point shiny, happy populism becomes cheerful manipulation.

Sarah Palin saved John McCain again Thursday night. She is the political equivalent of cardiac paddles: Clear! Zap! We've got a beat! She will re-electrify the base. More than that, an hour and a half of talking to America will take her to a new level of stardom. Watch her crowds this weekend. She's about to get jumpers, the old political name for people who are so excited to see you they start to jump.



And then this about Tina Fey...


We must take happiness where we can. Tina Fey's Sarah Palin has become, in that old phrase, a national sensation, and Ms. Fey is becoming, with her show "30 Rock," and now the Palin impression, one of the great comic figures of her generation. Her work with Amy Poehler (as Katie Couric) in last weekend's spoof on "Saturday Night Live" was so astoundingly good—the hand gestures, the vocal tone and spirit—that it captured some of the actual heart of the Palin story. Ms. Poehler as Couric: "Mrs. Palin, are you aware that when cornered you become increasingly adorable?" Ms. Fey as Palin mugs, adorably.

To spoof someone well takes talent, but to utterly nail a political figure while not brutalizing him takes a real gift, and amounts almost to a public service. After all, to capture someone is a kind of tribute: it concedes he is real, vivid, worthy of note. We are not as a nation manufacturing trust all that well, or competence, or leadership. But some things we do well, and one is comedy. Ms. Fey plays characters who are sour, stressed and who, on "30 Rock," live in a world that is cynical, provisional and shallow. But to observe life so closely takes a kind of love.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122300786229301597.html


Oy vey, she is so far out there she can't een remember where she came from.

And, she is one creepy woman.
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DU9598 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:26 AM
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1. She is a fraud
Remember when she thought she was off mic on MSNBC and she admitted the truth about SP - Noon said SP was political BS, and it's over.

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:27 AM
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5. That was funny enough to be lampooned on SNL...
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:26 AM
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2. LOL, the first time I read it I thought it said complete populist bitch..
has Peggy ever been on meds? I've never read a lucid thing she's written.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:28 AM
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8. Well, the only place that would pay her to be a OpEd writer is the WSJ...
That should tell you something...
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:27 AM
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3. Peggy's right wing masters were very upset with her last, brutally honest commentary ...
She had to make amends to these vile people who don't let the facts get in the way with their hate-filled ideology.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:27 AM
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4. Political bullshit...them's Peggy's words
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:27 AM
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6. Um, Peggy, Tina Fey DID "brutalize" Palin, and it WAS a "public service". (nt)
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:29 AM
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11. It's almost as sad as right wingers watching Cobert "for real" - not "for satire"
Poor little right wingers whose drive "to HATE" over-rides any semblance of decency or sense of humor.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:28 AM
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7. Peggy is lying through her teeth.
She accidentally admitted what she really thought the day McCain picked Palin--she'll never escape it.
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:28 AM
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9. The Reagan references must have addled her mind n/t
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:29 AM
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10. Noonan has always driven me crazy... Her verbosity with
overly flowery language in every column or interview she does is so over-the-top. Yet, she will ride the Raygun association to her dying day.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:29 AM
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12. Her performance on TDS was so affected as to make one ill

You could tell she had been practicing in a mirror.


She continued to return to the word 'epic'.


Stewarts good manners were the only thing that saved hier.


No, Noonan you are not 'in' on the joke, and you are not in the 'in' crowd, and no we are not going to buy your book.


No, Peggy, both sides are not showing the same lack of leadership, one is apart of the greatest political reformations in your lifetime and you don't get it.


Please just get off the stage before we have to bring in the hook.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:32 AM
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15. I had to turn that off and I never turn off John...
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:30 AM
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13. Ms. Noonan's affected speaking style betrays her. She goes where the money is, and we know
what that defines.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:30 AM
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14. Sorry Peggy, but it's still "over"
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:23 AM
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21. basically. peggy? i'm not buying your, excuse me, bullshit narrative.
heh
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:38 AM
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16. The fact is this...
Edited on Fri Oct-03-08 09:42 AM by RichGirl
Palin's performance at the convention and the debate which was scripted and rehearsed was the equivolent of Tina Fey...it was a PERFORMANCE!

Tori Spelling could have easily played the role of Sarah at the convention and in the debate. But, if interviewed and asked the same questions as Palin, she would have come up with the same answers. (Personally, I think she would have said Time or Newsweek to that question!) So, who is the real Tori...the role she is playing or the person?

Who is the real Sarah?

Funny how Palin came off as stupid when she was interviewed by Couric and others. Then her supporters said, about the debate...Sarah needs to be Sarah. The fact is, she was the real Sarah in the interviews and playing a role in the debates.

Another analogy: Martin Sheen could do a debate with Bill Clinton and hold his own.....if he were given a script and had time to rehearse. But if he were simply interviewed, he would not be able to equal Clinton.

We are in BIZARRO WORLD people!!! I just hope the voter's are smarter and more perceptive than I think they are.

Although she needs some work, I was impressed with Palin's performance. Lifetime Network should snap her up!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:57 AM
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17. Spot on....
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:57 AM
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18. "A question is at what point shiny, happy populism becomes cheerful manipulation."
what exactly was shiny & happy about what she had to say last night?
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:05 AM
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19. "jumpers" ??? Can anyone verify that this is really a term used in politics?
Or is Peggy Nooner talking out her ass again? Anyway, just what I want to see, "jumpers". Spare me please, Lord.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:18 AM
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20. Peggy Noonan is just full of horseshit. I'm not quite sure why Stewart gave her such a pass on TDS
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