Game. Set. Match. McCain just lost FL with this boneheaded move

[cali]

McCain's chief economic advisor came out saying that McCain would cut 1.5 trillion in Medicaid/Medicare funding over 10 years. Brilliant move, asshole, scare the bejeezus out of retirees and millions of others. thanks.

John McCain would pay for his health plan with major reductions to Medicare and Medicaid, a top aide said, in a move that independent analysts estimate could result in cuts of $1.3 trillion over 10 years to the government programs.

The Republican presidential nominee has said little about the proposed cuts, but they are needed to keep his health-care plan "budget neutral," as he has promised. The McCain campaign hasn't given a specific figure for the cuts, but didn't dispute the analysts' estimate.

In the months since Sen. McCain introduced his health plan, statements made by his campaign have implied that the new tax credits he is proposing to help Americans buy health insurance would be paid for with other tax increases.

But Douglas Holtz-Eakin, Sen. McCain's senior policy adviser, said Sunday that the campaign has always planned to fund the tax credits, in part, with savings from Medicare and Medicaid. Those government health-care programs serve seniors, poor families and the disabled. Medicare spending for the fiscal year ended Sept. 30 is estimated at $457.5 billion.

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122315505846605217.html

[TwilightGardener]

1. That's a total fucking shell game. And yeah, way to go, McSame--can't wait

for the Obama ads to air in FL about this.

[Youphemism]

2. Hope this comes up at the debate. It will cause him real troubles. /nt

[msanthrope]

28. Obama will make it come up in the debate...n/t

[dmr]

41. I'm sure Obama will tell America about McCain's cold-blooded plan.n/t

[Stop Cornyn]

3. Wow, that's awfully mavericky!

[yellowcanine]

9. Darn right. You betcha! Say it ain't so, Johnny!

[Blue_Roses]

4. This REALLY PISSES ME OFF!

I just printed this article out and I'm passing them out at my 88 year-old mother's retirement home. My mother and so many others there DEPEND on Medicaid and Medicare. I am so fucking pissed! But no, we have "sister Sarah" spewing her "sainthood"...:eyes:

Give me a fucking break! What is wrong with these people???????????:argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh:

[Jersey Devil]

5. Won't go over too well in NC either, maybe even put Ariz in play

NC has become a huge retirement state for many people from the NY/NJ/Conn area

[FrenchieCat]

6. McCain is mentally unstable, and Palin is out to Lunch!

Geeze! :mad:

[yellowcanine]

7. Obama will be all over that tomorrow night. You know it. McCain will have to repudiate that today.

If he doesn't he is in deep shit. If he does, it makes it look as if the wheels are coming off the straight talk express. Mr. Rock, meet Mr. Hard Place.

[Captain Hilts]

8. They are doing all they can to assure Obama of a win. nt

[BREMPRO]

10. another indication that McCain has no fukin idea what he's doing..

he says he's for the people, but they are all over the map with inconsistant programs because their core values only support individual corporate interests rather than the people.

[nc4bo]

11. This is devastating! People need to wake the *F* up.

By the time Mccain is finished raping and pillaging the remaining social programs we have left, EVERYone will be affected not just the seniors and disabled.

This maniac psychotic freak wanted to privatize Social Security, Bushie has already begun waging a war on Medicare prescription drug plans as it is - Mccain will be sure to polish off Medicare and Medicaid.

Only the wealthy will have health care.

[cali]

12. um, people are waking up and this is truly devastating

for McCain. Just wait 'til Obama goes after McCain tomorrow at the debate and until he starts running ads on this in FL

[nannah]

13. taking basic survival and heath care dollars away from elderly and disabled...

to pad the pockets of the health insurance industry and the fortunate.

people who can afford to pay for health care and insurance are rewarded for their affluence and comfort by receiving tax credits that take away dollars for medical care and bare survival needs for the elderly and disabled.

edited for clarity

[cali]

16. that's the right word for it alright. It truly is diabolical

and the retirees in FL are not going to like it.

[nannah]

31. oops, i edited out diabolical because i thought it was too exteme

i should have followed my first instict! it is diabolical. And it is consistent with the cruelty inherent in the decisions of the bush administration.

funny, i work in a "welfare office". I see guys like gw and mccain alot; only the ones i see are the ones who didn't have rich powerful dads. they are the guys who cruelly mistreat others, float in and out of jail, gather wounds from ill thought out assaults, and try to get federal dollars for their disability of being without consciences.

[Left Is Write]

19. I'm with you and cali. Diabolical is exactly the word for it.

[Mother Of Four]

14. Wait for it-

Palin is publicly and LOUDLY questioning McCains choices in the campaign. After how tight a leash she's been on, do you really think that's an accident?


I'm betting they know this year is a wash, and they have to start focusing on 2012. Be ready for the next round of "concern" from Palin in the following 24-48 hours.

[cui bono]

38. I think she is focusing on 2012, but I don't think they are.

She'll barely be able to stay in local politics after this is over. And it seems that something will come of Troopergate since that one witness flipped under oath. I don't think the party will care about her after they've used her up for this stunt.

[tridim]

15. McCain doesn't need Medicare, he has a great government run health care plan.

Doesn't everyone? :eyes:

And short of that, he's also filthy rich.

[BumRushDaShow]

18. But the way his gov't coverage goes, Medicare is considered "primary"

and his FEHB is "secondary". So he's using Medicare (and collecting his SS & SS disability too). Living off his wife and the government!

[volstork]

40. Apparently you do

if there is an ER nearby! :sarcasm:

[Blackhatjack]

17. I see a New Obama Ad Coming ... "McCain Would Cut Medicare/Medicaid $1.5 Trillion..."

... and you are right --that would spook Retirees.

This Ad would go .... BOOM !!!!!

[me b zola]

24. Just heard on msnbc that McCain only holds a 4 point lead among seniors

This will indeed implode McCain's campaign.

[tomp]

45. and those approaching retirement.

that's a lot of people, including me. so they've crashed my 403b, now mccain wants to slash medicare/medicaid. interesting electoral strategy.

in addition to the effect on reitrees, think about the impact on health care.

[Robbins]

20. Wow

Mccain has someone stupid enough to say what I always believe when I hear Republicans talk about
cutting spending.They want to cut programs to help middle class and poor.Remember Palin was
quoting Reagan during the debate on losing freedom.He meant If Medicare was enacted Americans would
lose their freedom.Shows what a bunch of Idiots the Republicans are.

[Lorien]

21. Lost both Florida and NC

and weakened his position in his home state. All three are now huge retirement destinations.

[Dr. Death]

35. Well if it cost him FL and NC

AZ doesn't matter.

[gal]

22. So my grandmother already cuts her heart pills in half...

If he is elected she wont be able to afford the half she does take?

[Courtesy Flush]

23. That won't play well with Nanna! n/t

[Blackhatjack]

25. SZZZZZZZAP!!! (Sound of McCain Touching the Third Rail in Politics -- Medicare)...

Any Political Strategist worth their salt knows that any mention of Medicare in a Campaign better be followed with an assurance that the candidate will protect it.

Otherwise, potential voters locked into this issue literally drop out right before their eyes.

Just shows how out of touch they are running the McCain Titanic.

[casus belli]

26. What a dumbass.

Some days, it seems like he WANTS to lose. He's either out of touch, or hoping he doesn't get the job.

[frickaline]

27. wow ... maybe someone should tell him that retirees are his base.

what. an. idiot.

[abumbyanyothername]

29. Just in time for the Great Schlep,

http://www.thegreatschlep.com/site/index.html

[DainBramaged]

30. The news cycle by Friday will be blaring this......

"McCain pulls campaign out of Florida, virtually assuring Obama of victory."

In an open revolt against the McCain/Palin campaign, Senior citizens in Florida vowed not to vote for the 'mavawrecks' who want to reduce their Medicaid/Medicare therefore cutting further into their limited incomes. "That's some howdoyoudo" said Mrs. Alice Frumpkin "Couldn't retire till I was 70 because of these idiots in Washington, and now this rich jerk wants to cut MY health benefits? No way, I'm voting for that nice young Black fella now".



:popcorn:

[lonestarnot]

39. Tee hee! Now get him the fuck out of AZ! Sun City retiree assholes turn up your fucking hearing

aids!

[Supersedeas]

32. where are the AARP ads?

[FatDave]

33. Dumbest move possible.

The only age group where McCain had a consistent lead was 60+, and that lead was already shrinking fast. So he comes out with "I'm cutting your medicare"? What. The. Fuck.

I mean, "they're trying to lose" has been a joke for a few weeks, but really? He's gonna drive that final nail into his own coffin? Is he really trying to lose?

[Undercurrent]

34. Ah doncha worry old folks,

McCrud, and Piglips are gonna bring on the witch doctors to fix yer right up. You betcha, by golly. Winky dink.

[invictus]

36. McCain is one dumb son of a ***!

nt

[Cha]

42. What does he care? mccain thinks

all he needs is palin the riot inciter.

[Bensthename]

37. A great Florida anti-McCain commerical for sure..

[NotThisTime]

43. This is being reported on Rachel's show right now

[donheld]

44. That's an insane move

How can ANYONE support that?

[tekisui]

46. knr!

[Coexist]

47. I work for a health company.... I've seen the add'l co-pays and fees for next year's plans

(a couple of them). People are in for a shock. They will be finding out this month. Its gonna get ugly.

[cali]

48. uh oh. couldn't come at a worse time for McCain.

[Hubert Flottz]

49. Douglas Holtz-Eakin's ideas are part of what caused the mess we

find ourselves in on Wall Street. McCain's other "Advisor" Phil Gramm helped ruin us too. America can't afford anymore "Help" like that!

[dakdirty]

50. Thanks John!

I sure do appreciate you basically handing over the election! The only way this could get better is to somehow see you in a federal prison jumpsuit! Viva John McCrime!

[paparush]

51. How will Palin dig Johnny Lockjaw out of this hole? She's been shoveling for him

over his "the foundations of the economy are strong" comment by trying (reaching) to reframe that comment as a statement about the American worker.

How will Bible Spice weave her master out of this quagmire?

[agentS]

52. Starve the weak to help the rich?

Well, McNasty certainly lives up to his nickname, huh?

Selling out the elderly like OUR GRANDPARENTS to keep his fiscal conservative base happy should earn him a special place in the Political Hall of Shame.

I hope the seniors turn off FOX news long enough to pay attention to that because now it has come to this;
A vote for McCain could cost you your life...