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adamrsilva Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:22 PM
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Dean does best against Bush, but people don't believe he can win
He's only 5 points behind Bush.

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04gen.htm

However, I just saw a CNN poll that had only 28% saying Dean could beat Bush. Doesn't this really show the difference between reality and perception when it comes to questions on electability...

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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:24 PM
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1. Yes.
We should no longer entertain that argument, and we should not give people the perception that there must be some basis for it by parroting it. Predictably, I haven't heard much of it the last few days.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:26 PM
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2. What else would you expect
Edited on Sun Jan-04-04 05:27 PM by notsodumbhillbilly
from CNN, aka Faux II. Conservative News Network lost all credibility when they became a mouthpiece for Bush* propoganda.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:29 PM
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3. Wolf Blitzer's poll Today said 81% believe Dem can beat Bush
I think the CNN poll is Bu**shit

Dean will kick Bush's ass in the election.
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adamrsilva Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:31 PM
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4. Re: "Wolf Blitzer's poll Today said 81% believe Dem can beat Bush"
I think the CNN poll is Bu**shit

Dean will kick Bush's ass in the election.

-That's interesting. Never trust Wuddruf I guess.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:33 PM
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5. Why don't you keep saying that and maybe it will come true.
This is why people don't vote because someone on TV said their candidate didn't have a chance. Yes, those are probably shallow reasons, but the GOP counts on the media doing just that for them, propagandizing that their candidate is unbeatable.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:35 PM
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6. Ignore the polls
It has been admitted by reporters pollsters and pundits that trying to get people to respond to polls is like pulling eye teeth. wometimesm you can hear them doubt their own polls.

Right now because Dean is front runner every negaitve poll that can be found will be pulled out in an effort to try to assist the other candidates see if anyone can break through.

The best thing activists can do is trust their own judgement--many activists have as much knowlledge and understanding as the pundits, if not more.

Secondly most often these polls are skewed Republican--naturally republicans think Bush can beat Dean. CNN is famous for these type polls.
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adamrsilva Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:37 PM
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8. If people paid attention to polls
then Dean wouldn't be leading, but he is. I think Dems see past this crap.
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demconfive Donating Member (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:36 PM
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7. No.
It shows the ability of propaganda to cloud people's minds.The reality is that Bush was beaten in the first election, and with his dismal record he should be easily beaten the second time around. Perceptions are manipulated by all sorts of things, including polls and freeper plants. "Questions of electability" are a classic ruse to engender doubt. What in the hell does "questions of electability" mean anyway? Absolutely nothing.
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adamrsilva Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 06:08 PM
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9. The truth is the election will be close no matter who the nominee is
because of the electoral college.
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INTELBYTES Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:29 PM
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10. Yeah, let's pretend that the inevititable isn't going to happen.
Ignoring the polls won't make the problem go away. Dean might have a chance only if he would stop talking for a while
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:42 PM
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11. Oh ...he'll win!!!Those who don't need a good dose of Lord of the Rings
Doubters need not apply!!
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