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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 12:04 PM
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This scares me about Volusia County..."36,000 had to be returned to the voter for corrections"
Edited on Fri Oct-31-08 12:23 PM by madfloridian
Out of 56,000 absentee ballots that were requested, how in the world could 36,000 people make errors and have to have them returned.

My mind is still boggled over all the machines in Orlando breaking down at once....so help me out here.

Vote count begins in Volusia

There is a video here also...but here's the part that bothered me.

After making sure the signatures match the registrations, they will feed the ballots into tabulation equipment. Unfortunately, there have been equipment problems already. Last Friday, an early voting machine malfunctioned in Ormond Beach. However those ballots were re-fed into another machine.

Here are some of the latest numbers:

As of Wednesday, approximately 38,000 people have voted early in Volusia County.

56,000 absentee ballots were requested.

36,000 had to be returned to the voter for corrections to be made.


The Department of Elections expects an 80% voter turnout; that's over a quarter of a million voters in Volusia County.



:wow:
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Citizen Jane Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 12:07 PM
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1. Well, at least my Mom is a poll watcher there
She also watched the absentee ballots being opened the other day.

The supervisor of elections is a real piece of work. She tried to defy Charlie Crist's order to stay open longer hours. My Mom is campaigning for the woman running against her! (along with calling and knocking for Obama!).
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 12:09 PM
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3. I can't imagine returning 36,000 absentee ballots for correction.
Have you heard of such a thing.

Give your mom a hug for me. We did that one year, and it was a friendly supervisor. It was so terribly hard.

How could that many make mistakes on a ballot, and how would they know it was a mistake instead of how they wanted to vote?

Very confused.
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 12:07 PM
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2. yeah, how many of those "corrections"
were votes for Obama?

My feeling is that there will be more votes for Obama from Volusia County than expected - I'd bet there's a good chance that that's behind this.

How many people will actually go to the trouble to "fix" their ballots?
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Clareman Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 12:19 PM
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4. It could be legitimate checking
As I live in Volusia County, I've always heard stories about absentee ballots... in 2000 there was a rumor that the Republican office in a mall in South Daytona was filling out stacks of them and carrying them into a post office in the same mall. And there are rumors about nursing home residents voting for Republicans by absentee ballot even though they're comatose or have been dead for years.

So it's entirely possible that with all the scrutiny on the election this year, the authorities are trying to clean things up and make sure that the people sending in the absentee ballots are the actual voters.

And as for people just filling them out wrong, trust me, there are a lot of dolts around. I've talked to people while canvassing who thought there was no election in Florida on Tuesday, that the early voting they were seeing on the TV news WAS the election. I've had to assure them that there's going to be an election on Tuesday and yes, they can show up at their local precinct and vote.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 12:22 PM
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5. I would hope you are right, but that's a lot of corrections.
Worries me.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:34 PM
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9. I would discard the nursing home rumours first hand
I work in nursing homes in Volusia and 5 other FL counties. For one thing, resident privacy is guarded to the point of over obsession. Nobody messes with NH residents, trust me. There is like 4 employees for every resident and they are guarded almost like prisoners (almost).

Secondly, and this is the God's honest truth: you pull into the employee parking lot of any nursing homes, and every 3rd car has an Obama sticker on it. None, and I mean not one, for the loser.

Sure, some of the residents are freeps, its funny to see them cared for so well by immigrants and people of colour, people they may have well despised in the adult life they dont remember anymore.
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Citizen Jane Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:15 PM
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6. Called Mom
She hadn't heard those numbers and said she'd check with her people when she gets back from an overnight in Tampa.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:36 PM
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10. Thanks so much for doing that.
I appreciate it. I have checked with others who never heard of sending back absentees for mistakes.

It might be a good thing...but 36,000 is a whole lot.
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nuncvendetta Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:21 PM
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7. If you voted via absentee in Florida, call to verify it was processed w/o problems
In FL, you can call your county supervisor of elections to see if the absentee ballot you mailed back was received and processed properly. If "yes" then you're good to go. This is to make sure your signature wasn't rejected or some other technicality. Each county elections office has a spreadsheet that is updated daily as absentee ballots are received. I just called mine, and in about 15 seconds, they were able to tell me that mine was A-ok.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:26 PM
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8. K&R for the vote purging file.
There are many such incidents that are being compiled earlier this time than they were in 2004.

If there is any SURPRISING UPSET showing a McLiar win, these incidents will need to be examined carefully.

Even if Obama is allowed his win relatively unimpeded, the vote purging, electronic vote flipping and other vote count manipulation or voter suppression incidents will need to be studied to eliminate those problems in the future.

Lots of work will still need doing on election integrity issues, regardless of who wins.

www.velvetrevolution.us, www.bradblog.com,


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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:38 PM
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11. Hey, at least they were returned
...not just circular-filed. Two points for that BOE!
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