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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 12:56 PM
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Why Is McCain Losing?
The MSM is now asking this question. The Freepers are also asking it.

Many Republicans are saying now that they never really supported McCain.

They are entering a period of justification as to why they are losing. It is a sign they are giving up and are beginning to deal with what is wrong with their party. The attempts by the GOP to dress their guys up as agents of change or independence have failed, epicly. They now must begin the long journey in the wilderness of soul searching to rediscover who they are.

The irony is, what is wrong with them and their party is staring them in the face on a daily basis. They are beginning to hang their hopes on Palin for the next run. And if they do that, they will not simply spend years in the wilderness, but decades. Palin epitomizes everything that is wrong with the Republican Party. The real question is, will the Republican Party realize this in four years or not?
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ipfilter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 12:58 PM
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1. The real question is
how does McPailin have anything north of 40% anywhere.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 12:59 PM
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2. I don't think they'll ever really get it. I think they'll just try to buy another
packaging job like they did with Dubya and sell **NEW** dog food.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 12:59 PM
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3. Because he is on the wrong side of history
America's Middle Ages, with their resurgence of feudalism, are over. He is the last of the Hapsburgs (or whatever royal family is appropriate - too lazy to research)
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:00 PM
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4. Because he can't overcome his belief in Republican propaganda.
They believe that they have to force everyone else to eat shit, and if they wrap it up pretty & advertise heavily then everyone will WANT to eat shit.

But, in the end it's still shit - no matter how it's packaged.
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bkinsd Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:01 PM
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5. Are you serious? He is losing because he is a hot-headed, eratic old fart
with a vp who is a moron
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:02 PM
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6. Negative campaigning + Palin + Bush + outrageous lies = losing
McCain went way beyond the pale with his negative campaigning. His choice of Palin was a cynical, out-of-touch move that shows his simplistic thinking (eg. "women will all vote for Palin")

This election may be the turning point where negative campaigning is finally seen as risky.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:03 PM
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7. I don't think they are dealing with the problems with their party, they are merely
blaming Old Man McCain for their troubles.
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ksoze Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:05 PM
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8. CHANGE trumps EXPERIENCE this year - just ask Hillary.
Chris Matthews mentioned this this am on joe scar's show. Was surprised McCains people did not pick up on that after what happened to Hillary.
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Wolfies Revenge Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:09 PM
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12. they did and picked PALIN
problem is they thought change could be any old change so they picked the dingbat in the room, dressed it in 150k clothes and tried to sell it as change. Epic MCFAIL.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:05 PM
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9. Because he is a Conservative. n/t
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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:06 PM
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10. Let me count the ways. Oh oh, already ran out of fingers and toes.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:06 PM
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11. McCain is losing because the Obama campaign is well-organized and doing a first-rate job
That's why.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:12 PM
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13. McCain's only hope of ever winning an election was distortion and media complicity
Political Memo

A Candidate Who Embraces Opposites

By MICHAEL COOPER
Published: October 11, 2008

At the presidential debate in Nashville last Tuesday, Senator John McCain made his case for fiscally conservative, smaller government, calling for an “across the board” spending freeze and denouncing what he described as Senator Barack Obama’s “government will do this and government will do that” approach to health care.

But Mr. McCain’s big proposal that night was to spend $300 billion in taxpayer money to buy bad mortgages from banks and refinance them, a plan conservatives quickly condemned as an expensive effort to nationalize the mortgage industry.

The juxtaposition of a hands-off approach to governing with an embrace of intervention — albeit intervention at a moment of national crisis — was hardly unusual for Mr. McCain. Throughout his run for the presidency, he has often proposed policies that appear to be incompatible with one another, if not contradictory.

His foreign policy, for example, calls for ostracizing Russia for its undemocratic ways by expelling it from the Group of Eight industrialized powers, a hard-line position that he took long before Russia’s war with Georgia this summer. But Mr. McCain also calls for fostering closer ties with Russia to negotiate a new nuclear disarmament agreement.

link


He stands for nothing (at least not long enough), his record is fairly weak (see his support for Bush's policies) and he continues to engage in Keating Five-like activities.

Going negative was his only option. He would have gotten killed on the issues (at great risk to his Senate career).





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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:12 PM
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14. It's because Obama is outspending McClutch by so much
So a guy I contract with told me yesterday. I said it might also have to do with having the same economic plan as Bush that had caused him lose two of his 18 sites over the last year. Well, it was said more subtly than that...

Evolved into a good discussion on healthcare and how universal healh is inevitable. Lightbulbs are starting to come on..
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Max_powers94 Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:15 PM
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15. Tee hee hee
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:17 PM
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16. It's events, history, HIS decisions (Pukin,etc) it's a symphony
Edited on Fri Oct-31-08 01:18 PM by bluedawg12
of calssical screw ups.

Years from now people will study mclame's campaign as a textbook, "How to lose..."

Of course the main reason is HIM.

It has always been HIM, mclame, that is.

He is not up for the job.

He has a third rate character, one maybe suited to rise only as high as the sen. but never POTUS.

Look at his military record.

Look at his personal life.

Lokk at his history with Keating and the allure of money and power.

His military record is pretty bad...all things considered, there are some pretty angry viet era vets out there who do not think he is a hero. Other guys who served longer and with honor, who's family didn't boast admiral's and they got no medals.

There is the could of suspicion about a deadly car accident in 1964 that the navy is trying to cover up.

The real reason he is losing is because he is the wrong man/woman for the job.

http://74.6.239.67/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=John+McCains+military+record&fr=slv8-tyc7&u=www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/mccain_post_card_word%255B1%255D.pdf&w=john+mccains+mccain%27s+military+record&d=FOxZWULURpBY&icp=1&.intl=us

FACT SHEET: Military record of John Sidney McCain III
...........

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/




He has a few skeletons in his closet.

http://www.redpills.org/?p=782

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/mccain_post_card_word%5B1%5D.pdf

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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:19 PM
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17. Because he's an uninformed flake...
...of course, being that hasn't stopped candidates from winning, before (Reagan, Bush), but the severe economic downturn has made an awful lot of people get a little more serious than usual about whom they're going to vote for and why. A lot less "he reminds me of the drunk I had a beer with" reasoning this time around.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:20 PM
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18. Because he's brainless, his VP prick is a lunatic, and he's associated with a party that messed up
the economy?

(hope for the sake of the entire world that he does lose!)
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:22 PM
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19. We have a choice: Fear or Hope
I think people are dead sick of the fear mongering we've had to deal with over the past eight years. As much as McCain claims NOT to be Bush, he sure is acting like him.

Then we have the idiots who cannot STAND to be on the losing team... I'm sure there are many who have jumped McShip so they can boast that their football team, erm, presidential candidate won.

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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:01 PM
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20. Chicken Killing Dog - Molly Ivins explained it well
Well, look at it this way: You cannot keep a dog that kills chickens, no matter how fine a dog it is otherwise.

My friend John Henry Faulk always said the way to break a dog of that habit is to take one of the chickens the dog has killed and wire the thing around the dog's neck, good and strong. And leave it there until that dead chicken stinks so bad the dog won't be able to stand himself. You leave it on there until the last little bit of flesh rots and falls off, and that dog won't kill chickens again.

The Bush Administration is going to be wired around the neck of the American people for four more years, long enough for the stench to sicken everybody. It should cure the country of electing Republicans.

I can think of nothing more likely to convince the people not to vote for Republicans again for a long, long time than four more years of George W. Bush.

A Rotting, Dead Chicken From Common Dreams
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:11 PM
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21. Beautiful ! Molly Ivins said it so well. Those extra years of Bush
may have sickened everyone much more than we realize.

Conservative Republican owned media conglomerates may have distorted the picture even more than we realize.

I remember reading this Molly Ivins piece when I was depressed about 2004. It cheered me up then and does so now.

But propaganda is very strong, as we can see from the five media conglomerates we have left that are all conservative owned. They went along with the Bush Cheney propaganda program but I am glad they didn't manage to cover up the full stink of Bush Cheney GOP management.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:13 PM
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22. He's a nonpersonality.
Obama is something. Hillary is something. Even Huckabee is something. McCain is a generic old white guy who reminds us a lot of the last old white guy who everyone now hates.
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