What I Find Interesting About Cheney's Iowa Remarks

[Joe Fields]

My memory is not as good as it used to be. But if I remember correctly, John Kerry was not president on Sept. 11, 2001. I believe George W. Bush was president. And if I remember correctly, Dick Cheney was vice-president when those cowards struck. And again, if I remember correctly, as was thoroughly documented by the 9/11 commission, terrorism wasn't even a priority in the Bush administration, prior to 9/11.

Now I won't sit here and say that 9/11 could have been prevented if the Bush White House HAD made terrorism a priority. But I will say that their lack of focus on terrorism, their inattention and lack of urgency on the subject of terror INSURED that 9/11 could not have been stopped.

And Cheney says that a vote for Kerry will cause more terrorism to hit these United States?

One other thing; Lately, the Bush campaign is having the candidates drum home the point that we did the correct thing, hitting terrorists abroad, instead of waiting for us to be attacked here. (Bringing the fight to them, I believe they are saying) Is it just me, or is there a real disconnect here?

Like I say, my memory isn't what it used to be, but was it Iraq that attacked us? I thought it was al-Qaeda. And can anyone explain to me how, by bringing the fight to "them", whoever they are, will keep attacks from happening here?

[Jacobin]

1. Rove is very very good at projecting their own weaknesses on

others.

When they have a huge liability, they repeatedly state that the weakness that they have is the weakness that the dems have.

Works pretty well for the folks not paying attention.

btw, your memory is fine, and I agree with what you say.

[Joe Fields]

5. Good. Then I haven't completely lost my marbles.

[DemoTex]

7. For some reason, your good point reminds me of Mark Twain:

Mark Twain described perfectly both the appearance and the reality of Rovian politics:

I bring you the stately matron named Christendom, returning bedraggled, besmirched and dishonoured from pirate-raids in Kiao-Chou, Manchuria, South Africa and the Philippines, with her soul full of meanness, her pocket full of boodle and her mouth full of pious hypocrisies. Give her the soap and a towel, but hide the looking-glass. Mark Twain, from A Salutation from the 19th to the 20th Century, December 31, 1900.

[kwolf68]

2. Yep

And nary a word of objective questioning from the lackeys in the media.

Like many, I am appalled that this has not created more of a fervor. One thing I would believe the American people don’t like is being manipulated.

There is no doubt some level of manipulation exists when millions are spent on political campaigns, but for the 2nd highest ranked (and rank) person in the US who had the most devastating terrorist attacks happen on his watch, to suggest electing the other guy will bring on more terrorism is almost unbelievable.

I heard the comments on NPR this morning. I know it was a town hall style stop with only a couple hundred or so people, but I didn’t hear anyone cheer or clap…I have a feeling even the most ardent right-wingers in earshot of that verbal masturbation had to pause at that.

That statement was clearly the most outrageous campaign act I have ever seen/heard. To essentially say that electing Kerry will lead to the death of American people is astounding.

[cthrumatrix]

3. the media is pumping shruya for media consilidation... this is why

they have zero obectivity ...it's all power and control for them

[Dem Agog]

4. That's exactly what I find unbelievable...

Cheney and his little puppet W.RONG were the ones in charge. They're the ones who stood by why we were attacked the first time. How anyone doesn't get that simply baffles me.

[Kazak]

6. Precisely!

:puke:

[mbali]

8. GREAT point!

So, I guess the fact that the Supreme Court installed Bush instead of Gore resulted in us getting "hit in a way that will be devastating from the standpoint of the United States."

[RoyalWickedness]

9. Now, just to recap on this issue:

We are safer now than we were on September 11. But we need George Bush to keep us safe, because the Terrorists hate us and want to kill us and they're coming to get us, and YOU might be next.

We must vote for George Bush because if we don't, the Terrorists will attack us and Kerry won't know what to do. But George Bush didn't know what to do when they DID attack us, but that's okay, because he's our President and we should support him in this time of war. Which we can't win. But which we will and must win. But only if George Bush is President.

Every expert on foreign policy and/or terrorism and/or the Middle East agrees that it is not a matter of IF we will be attacked, but when. Many agree that Bush's policies in Iraq have fanned the flames of Islamic extremism, putting us at greater risk now that ever in the past. So, regardless of whether Bush or Kerry is in the White House next January, another terrorist attack is all but inevitable. So, if we vote for Bush because we need him to keep us safe, and then are attacked as in all probability we will be, does that mean we have made the wrong decision?

[Joe Fields]

10. Maybe we can win the war against women-loving gynecologists.

[maine_raptor]

11. If Bush is Elected on that basus Royal, then

yes, the American People HAVE made a Wrong Decision.

[RoyalWickedness]

13. That was more or less

the point I was trying to make. Pardon me, my sarcasm is showing. It just KILLS me how they keep trying to play this fear issue, saying we NEED them to keep us safe, ward off the Evildoers, etc., at the same time telling us how much safer we are. I don't feel any safer. Or any less safe. The only thing I really feel is a lot more broke and a lot more distressed over the fact that I've been unemployed for 18 months and still have no prospects, and a lot more frustrated that, apparently, this country is approximately 50% brain dead.

[The Magistrate]

12. It Is An Extremely Odd Statement, Mr. Fields

For one thing, these reptiles have spent much of the last several years predicting there would be a further attack on the country, and saying that nothing really could be done to prevent one, that it was only a matter of time before it occured. They have therefore forfeited any claim either that they can prevent a future attack, or that their replacement would lead to a new attack.

Nor have they done anything particularly of use in preventing a future attack that any other political leadership in the country would not have done. The real efforts of the security services in this regard are largely independent of the political leadership, being the result of actions by career agents who view the security of the country as a personal vocation, and who would work as diligently in that vocation for any political leadership ruling the land.

Nor is there the least doubt that the actions they have taken abroad have only increased the popularity of the Islamic fundamentalist radicals who truely do mean harm to our country, by validating their propaganda's claims the U.S. is embarked on a "Crusade" against the Islamic world, and presenting the Islamic peoples with a steady spectacle of dead Moslems, mostly civilian, killed at the hands of the "Crusader" military. By shifting focus from Afghanistan to Iraq, they have forfeited the chance to make a genuine show-piece of what could be gained by Islamic peoples who rejected the fundamentalist radicals, by making that unhappy land prosperous and peaceful, as could have been done with programs of aid and an overwhelming garrison.

Rather than demonstrate the infinite might of our country, they have clearly exposed to all the limits of its power, and there is nothing better calculated to excite an enemy than such a demonstration. Thus North Korea, and Iran, proceed to truely dangerous defiances, and the criminals ruling Sudan proceed to truely monstrous outrages, secure in the knowledge the United States has committed all the force available to it in Iraq, and aware that that force is only barely equal to the task in that land.

"The utterance of a threat is generally more effective than its execution."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[Joe Fields]

14. On target, as always, Magistrate!

One of the biggest failures is, as you mentioned no substantive acts to truly keep us safe at home. To date, there is not even a plan, let alone the money to keep our rail infrastructure safe. We havent't even allocated funding to devise a plan, not to mention implement one to secure the thousands of water treatment systems across our country. The Border Patrol budget has been slashed at a time when as many as one thousand more agents are needed. Our port security and inspection policy is woefully inadequate. There is no formal national plan to secure our nuclear power facilities, and the list goes on.

[The Magistrate]

15. Speaking Of Railroads, Sir

A recent visit to a friend led me along a length of freight siding just outside the city, that was filled with scores of chemical tank cars, most daubed with graffitti. As my thoughts began to run towards "If they can't keeps the kid with spray cans away what are they doing about professionals...?" it became clear the kids with spray cans shared my view: one of the graffitti was a face with crosses for eyes labeled Homeland Security....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[Joe Fields]

16. Now multiply that incident by hundreds, maybe thousands...

It is a prescription for real disaster.

[Cronus Protagonist]

17. Why is Cheney afraid to let the American people know the truth?

Why is he afraid to come clean with the American people? I thought he was supposed to be on our side! What on earth can he be hiding behind all that secrecy? I just can't trust him.

Thank God Kerry's got tons of experience going after government law breaking. And Edwards is a top lawyer as well. I think I can trust that they'll get to the bottom of it for us after they're elected.

It will feel good to get back to being America again after November 2!


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