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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 08:56 PM
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Look at Drudge for the Reason we Dont Trust that Shitbag Zogby
Edited on Fri Oct-31-08 08:58 PM by hnmnf
Drudge is saying McCain takes a 48-47 lead in one day polling....BULL FUCKIN SHIT

Edit: I was watching Hannity and Colmes and they reported that he took the lead

Still bullshit
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 08:56 PM
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1. Stop going there. He's a POS who knows nothing; your blood pressure
will thank you.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 08:57 PM
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2. I was watching the equally awful Hannity and Colmes and found out there
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 09:05 PM
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10. Stop going there, too.
:spank:
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 08:57 PM
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3. No...he's saying the single day poll is 48-47
Which is pointless because the MOE on a single day of polling is really high.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 08:58 PM
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6. I fixed it, but its still bullshit
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 09:05 PM
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9. What is the 1 day MOE -- link please to actual report.
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 09:30 PM
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18. 1 day MOE must be at least 5 points
A sample of 300 is tiny. This is nothing but an outlier. Publishing it as news is professional malpractice.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 08:57 PM
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4. Who are they polling - the McCain campaign staff?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 08:58 PM
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5. manipulative asshole
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sarahdemva Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 08:59 PM
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7. take a chill pill
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 09:02 PM
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8. Calling the 601 area code exclusively?
:crazy:
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GrizzlyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 09:07 PM
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11. I'll stick with the 7 or 8 polls that show Obama in the lead
You know, the ones not done by the bozo who said Kerry would sweep into the WH with 300+ EC votes.

Zogby was a has been when Obama was up by 7 and he's a has been when one he's pimping the drama for drudge.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 09:08 PM
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12. Hes been a has been this cycle since he royally fucked up the California Primary
Edited on Fri Oct-31-08 09:08 PM by hnmnf
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 10:38 PM
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23. I missed that. What'd he say?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 10:30 PM
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20. He really predicted that? Wow.
Why do people still trust him and his polls after that terrible projection?
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sarahdemva Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 09:08 PM
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13. ZOGBY likes headlines and publicity
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 09:08 PM
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14. Shit, this is going to fuck up my entire weekend...
...I kid you not. Of all the awesome polls out there, I'm going to be obsessing about this one until Tuesday--or until Sunday, when it'll undoubtedly spring back to something equally wacky.
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bermudat Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 09:12 PM
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15. Drudge again?!?
I'm beginning to think DU quotes Sludge more than FR.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 09:20 PM
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16. Polling on Halloween and a Friday night may not provide a particularly representative
sample but who the hell knows or cares - it is one stupid night countered by multiple other polls.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 09:21 PM
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17. I dont believe it, it just pisses me off.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 10:28 PM
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19. They're lying. Check Zogby yourself -- Obama's 7 points ahead.
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lolamio Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 10:32 PM
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21. Zogby's got a new book out that's not selling very well. He needs all the help he can get. n/t
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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 10:35 PM
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22. Nate Silver has a good response up
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/trick-or-treat.html
The meat of it:

...

Firstly, there is a reason that pollsters include multiple days of interviewing in their tracking polls; a one-day sample is extremely volatile, and have very high margins for error.

Secondly, the Zogby polls have been particularly volatile, because he uses nonsensical party ID weightings, which mean that his weighting process involves making numbers doing naughty things that they usually don't like to do.

Thirdly, Zogby polls are generally a lagging rather than a leading indicator. This is because he splits his interviewing period over two days; most of the interviews that were conducted in this sample took place on Thursday night, with a few this afternoon. The reason this is significant is because lots of other pollsters were in the field on Thursday night, and most of them evidently showed good numbers for Obama, as he improved his standing in 6 of the 7 non-Zogby trackers.

Finally, there was no favorable news for McCain to drive these numbers. Polls don't move without a reason (or at least they don't move much).

...
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