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Fire_brand Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 11:17 PM
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Nate at 538 would like you to calm down about the Zogby poll
Edited on Fri Oct-31-08 11:17 PM by Fire_brand
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/trick-or-treat.html

Trick or Treat

Do you spook easily?

Judging by the response in my inbox, some of you do.

Matt Drudge is touting the results of a one-day sample in a Zogby poll, which apparently showed John McCain ahead by 1 point.

There are a couple of significant problems with this.

Firstly, there is a reason that pollsters include multiple days of interviewing in their tracking polls; a one-day sample is extremely volatile, and have very high margins for error.

Secondly, the Zogby polls have been particularly volatile, because he uses nonsensical party ID weightings, which mean that his weighting process involves making numbers doing naughty things that they usually don't like to do.

Thirdly, Zogby polls are generally a lagging rather than a leading indicator. This is because he splits his interviewing period over two days; most of the interviews that were conducted in this sample took place on Thursday night, with a few this afternoon. The reason this is significant is because lots of other pollsters were in the field on Thursday night, and most of them evidently showed good numbers for Obama, as he improved his standing in 6 of the 7 non-Zogby trackers.

Finally, there was no favorable news for McCain to drive these numbers. Polls don't move without a reason (or at least they don't move much).

So go out to your Halloween parties and enjoy yourself, and we'll be back to covering the polls for you tomorrow.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 11:20 PM
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1. He also does his inane interactive polling. Hopefully, drudge, zogby, the MSM, and the rw POS
will get their ass handed to them on a platter on Tuesday


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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 11:20 PM
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2. K&R!
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Chichiri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 11:46 PM
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3. K&R, with a side of chill.
Okay? Okay.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 11:49 PM
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4. Thank God I was at dinner and missed the "concern" on that trash
Stupid Zogby, why does anyone still listen to you?

And why do C-SPAN and Reuters "pal" around with you?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 11:54 PM
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5. Pfft. DUers know WAAAAAY more than mathematicians....
Stoopid mathematicians.
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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 12:08 AM
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6. I love Nate's site. He really dissects and clarifies everything. nt
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